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You know Biden is not part of the House and the House is run by Republicans, right?
Denouncing is different from state sanctions. How biden has implicated that he opposes this bill according to the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5512l7yero
In the interest of learning, the ICC is not a state actor, so what exactly is the difference in this case?
EDIT: The sanction is actual travel and economic restrictions on members of the ICC. "Denounce" is the typical posturing. For those who care...
His words mean absolutely nothing. Biden will let the both-sides theater play out when convenient. When the both-sides theater does not favor israel Biden will bypass congress and use slimy loopholes to send israel weapons.
In earlier words Biden has already denounced the ICC and said they were not going to follow the arrest command. Called the ICC outrageous and simped for Netanyahu. Some lip-service to wash his bloody hands with now doesn't magically make him innocent.
If Biden truly cared about international law he'd be doing everything in his power to prevent these sanctions from becoming reality. But he's too busy bypassing congress to build his Trump wall against immigrants.
If his words mean nothing then stop posting his words denouncing the ICC as proof he supports these sanctions. Let me know if he signs it.
His words you quoted mean nothing as they are even contradicted by his earlier statement.
If he signs it will you support a third party instead of Joe Biden?
Ha why not. In fact I'll go further. I just donated 200 dollars to humanitarian aid in gaza. I half thought about making it on the condition of him signing this bill, but then I thought it would be cruel for them to never receive it. It helps more than denying the reality of any differences between parties. After all of we can accept that reality why would they try to go any further?
Putting your money where your mouth is. That is one of the best flexes I've seen today. Well done!
My hat off to you sir.
Of course shitlibs are downvoting this lmao
Shitlibs? What the hell are you?
Outside of Lemmy.world, the majority of users are leftists of various sorts.
From fascist to communist, where do shitlibs sit?
Liberals are Capitalists, so closer to fascists than Communists.
Ah. I guess I was just being myopic with liberals and leftists being sort of synonymous in the US. Thanks!
Yep, that's an easy mistake! Outside of Lemmy.world, the majority of Lemmy is some flavor of Marxist or Anarchist, a rejection of Capitalism for Socialism. Fascism is extremely rare on Lemmy.
Creepy.
"Who was the most notorious sadist in popular culture again? Now... Let's see if we can make them look more militaristic"
What does he symbolize? There's a rather simply meaning behind my profile picture that you still fail to grasp. You got a hint yesterday.
He symbolizes an evil tyrant. Something you apparently wanted for your avatar.
Indeed. But what differed him from his father? I did not pick Tywin, the calm and collected tyrant. Joffrey symbolizes something very specific.
I don't get it and googling "Joffrey symbolizes" finds no relevant information
Joffrey represents a crybully. He bullies people, but acts insulted when someone retaliates. Often running to mommy to whine about it.
Now what does the helm mean again?
OK, so replace his photo with any congressperson if you insist on being so pedantic.
The point is the absurdity of american government, which Biden as the president, is a symbol of.
When advantageous, most republicans would also claim that the US respects international law, then turn around and pass a vote like this.
EDIT: about a third of house dems supported the bill
Well Mike Johnson would be most fitting as he is the speaker and decides which bills are up for a vote.
They probably don’t, but obfuscation gets more clicks when trolling for engagement.
"Trolling" is when you put a picture of someone with something that they agree with
Way to completely miss the point. He's obviously there cuz he's the current US president.
If they wanted to dunk on biden specifically of course, they could've just pointed out how he's has been bypassing congress to send weapons to israel faster, or how he walked back the few sanctions on israeli settlers that were only for optics anyway since it was to pretend as if the state itself wasn't behind it, but this is just the most recent shit the US is doing.
Edit: Looks like Biden does agree with the move against the ICC too, so there's no need to bring up all the other shit he's done specifically.
Under the caption about something the House did...
If you're gonna be such a pedantic shitlib, should I edit the caption to be something from this article Linkerbaan mentioned? Since it's about this incident specifically.
Why go out of your way so much to try defending a fascist? Why do you have an image saved on your device to defend this piece of shit online?
Linkerbaan's article isn't on this bill. Articles on this bill say he doesn't support it https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5512l7yero
Again denouncing and sanctioning have differences. He wags his finger, but he is against punching them down.
I'd be Ok with changing that caption, don't blame Biden for the stupid shit the House is doing.
Being pedantic and defending fascists is also very hot right now among shitlibs apparently
Replace the caption with any of the other shit biden specifically has done that they mentioned if you're this much of a redditor
I'm all for blaming Biden for things he did.
Sanctioning the ICC is not one of them and was done by his opposition.
Dems and reps are equally part of the ruling capitalist class and are the parties of capital. There is no real "opposition" between the two aside from optics.
And as you'd expect, Biden does of course agree with this move like another user mentioned.
75% of Democrats voted against this
100% of Republicans voted for
Dumbfucks: bOTh siDes!
Biden does not agree with this move. Denouncing is using words and sanctions are actions. Biden has implied that he opposes this bill and his administration have stated that they do not support sanctions. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5512l7yero
There absolutely is opposition between the sides.
The right wants to take away womens rights.
The left wants to take away gun rights.
Just as a quick example.
? Of course there is opposition between the left and the right. What does that have to do with two right wing genocidal capitalist parties?
They are not both right wing.
Examples:
Left:
Student loan forgiveness.
Right:
Blocking student loan forgiveness.
Alternately:
Right:
Capital Punishment
Left:
Blocking Capital Punishment
Is it also "left wing" to bypass congress to send weapons to a genocidal state faster? Or denounce the ICC for actions against that state like in the post you're commenting on?
Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade
And the student loan interest rate has fuck all to do with the plans on the left to forgive student loans, plans which are continually blocked on the right.
You can't take a single issue and go "BoTh sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE" when they clearly are not.
The right wants to invade Mexico for gods sake!
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/03/mexico-republicans-us-america-invade-drugs-migration-cartels/
Shitlibs being pedantic and trying to defend fascists is always hilarious, even if expected
I don't know what a sHiTlIb is supposed to be here, but I do know it's a term that conservative communities use for anyone who opposes them.
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