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At least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, Gaza’s health ministry said on Sunday. The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire during the daytime operation.

The EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, called it a “massacre”, while the UN’s aid chief described in graphic detail scenes of “shredded bodies on the ground”.

“Nuseirat refugee camp is the epicentre of the seismic trauma that civilians in Gaza continue to suffer,” Martin Griffiths said in a post on X, calling for a ceasefire and the release of all hostages.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago

Indiscriminately? No. Without adequate or acceptable levels of discrimination? Absolutely.

That's not what I was responding to, though. I was responding to your writing that the Israelis lied about coming under heavy fire because they didn't take heavy losses. The IDF has been known to lie, but that doesn't make everything they say a lie. And your rationale for saying it was untrue makes no sense.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 4 points 5 months ago

It makes everything they say extremely untrustworthy.

So how many KIA do they have then?

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

1 by the way.

But I dont understand why is it even a measure. You expected probably best commando unit in the world specifically trained for this type of rescues to get heavy losses?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Best in the world? A world that also has, (checks notes) SFOD, SEALs, SAS, and whatever the CIA is cooking these days.

All of whom would have taken more than one casualty in intense urban fighting. And have done so in the past. Something doesn't add up here.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network -1 points 5 months ago

I expect the "best commando unit" (your ~~propaganda~~ words) to have a lower death toll.

The fact one of them was killed means the fighting probably wasn't intense enough to warrant that level of violence.

Fuck Israel and their indiscriminate killing

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I just expect them to bring the hostages home safely and alive by all means necessary.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

So how do all those dead kids factor into that? Lmfao get out of here

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Its sad indeed. But why oh why in the holy fuck are the hostages held in places with so many kids and civilians. Heck why oh why are there hostages at all??

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

Oh we're just ignoring the destruction of all infrastructure, the starving and abuse that brought us here? Smfh 200 innocents is no mistake only fools would think that.

smfh

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

I'm completely ignorant of the situation

FTFY, would be shorter to type

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bombing of Nuseirat’s busy market area began soon after the raid started at around 11am (9am BST), turning the neighbourhood into “smoke and flames”, Muhannad Thabet, a 35-year-old resident, told AFP.

“People were screaming – young and old, women and men,” he said. “Everyone wanted to flee the place, but the bombing was intense and anyone who moved was at risk of being killed due to the heavy bombardment and gunfire.”

At least one wave of heavy airstrikes was launched to secure the passage of the three men, who had been held together. Argamani was rescued alone, from a separate location.

Not. Discriminate. Enough.

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