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[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

Hey, nice to see you here!

I know community discoverability can be an issue. When I launched !imaginary@reddthat.com and !dragonball@ani.social, I used my alts on the top 10 instances to subscribe to them so that they would show in the All feed of those instances.

For small instances, I tried to post too to !newcommunities@lemmy.world and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, but beyond that there isn't really much I can do.

There was a tool that could help address that (I don't have the name right now), but last time I tried it, it wasn't working, so I'm not sure it's that useful.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good to be seen! Smart of you to preseed The larger instances good strategy

I think the clients are going to have to solve this, maybe look at the all feed on multiple servers, and then only show you what's different compared to your own server.

Discoverability is the key weakness of Lemmy, just like mastodon

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

Not sure clients might be the solution here, I think at the end people will have to choose

  • go to a large instance and rely on other people to populate the All feed for you
  • go to a small instance but know that you'll have to subscribe to most of the communities yourself
[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you familiar with Lemmy Federate? Participating instances get a bot that follows submitted communities to get them in feeds and then unsubscribes once a real user from the instance subs.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Ah, that's the cool I was looking for! Are we sure this tool is completely functional? The large number of "in progress" instances always gives me doubt

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

It used to be Lemmy Community Boost and I think it still works despite the status. I do keep meaning to track the developer down and give them a nudge.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I do see now that many instances have auto-add turned off, that could be what were seeing.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure tbh. Pretty sure it's run by the lemy.lol admin?

[-] iso@lemy.lol 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The tool relies on community local subscriber count to unsubscribe and that value was not available from 0.19.0 to 0.19.3. I fixed the problem about 8 months ago but due to unfortunate timing, it didn’t reach prod from then.

In the end, the tool is working. The only problem is, it doesn’t know if it should unsubscribe on 0.19.0 to 0.19.3. So it stays in in progress state but still federates the community.

Once all instances upgrades to 0.19.4, it will work correctly both functionally and visually.

@Emperor@feddit.uk @Blaze@reddthat.com

Also @can@sh.itjust.works; the auto add feature is for adding new local communities to the tool automatically. With it, users don’t need to add their communities manually to the tool because it will do it automatically.

But the federation is not relies on that tick. If the instance is enabled, it will subscribe to all communities no matter if auto add is enabled or not.

I guess I need to improve the explanations cuz at this state it is so confusing :) Maybe a FAQ page could be useful.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the information - very useful. And yes, an FAQ would be handy, although if you wait long enough it'll be less necessary.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Thank you for the update! Maybe you should make a dedicated thread with that info here, in !fedigrow@lemm.ee ?

It's a nice tool BTW, thanks !

[-] iso@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago

I was waiting for majority of the instances to upgrade to 0.19.4. I will make some changes in the tool too.

Yuri welcome 🙏

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Sounds good, thanks!

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also @can@sh.itjust.works; the auto add feature is for adding new local communities to the tool automatically. With it, users don’t need to add their communities manually to the tool because it will do it automatically.

I see, I thought it meant the manually added communities were put into a queue of some sort and each instance admin would manually choose when they get added. I'm glad that's not the case. Thank you for clarifying and for the wonderful tool.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 5 months ago

The second scenario is viable, if Lemmy was a lot more vibrant, and had enough population that the niche communities could keep you busy. Right now I wake up and check Lemmy and I've gotten through all the new posts in 20 minutes. So it's getting kind of quiet

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

It is indeed quiet.

I wanted to try something and blocked all news/memes/tech/politics communities last week, my All feed is definitely much more quieter.

Which I don't mind, but there is definitely stuff to do to get it the communities "beyond memes-tech-news" active

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