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[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Deflecting the blame to consumers is a misinformation tactic by corporations and governments. That doesn't mean consumers can't or shouldn't take action on their own, of course -- just that we also need to hold corporations and governments accountable. There are things that need to be done at a personal level and things that need to be done at an institutional level. Individual behavior influences institutional behavior, and vice-versa.

Take bottled water, for example. We ship fucking water across the country in plastic bottles when it is verifiably no better than the tap water in any reasonably-maintained system. Is it the consumers' fault for buying it, the corporations' fault for being completely amoral, or the government's fault for allowing these ass-backwards incentives to exist and persist in the first place, and failing to provide sufficient alternatives? My choice to avoid bottled water whenever humanly possible in no way absolves these instutions of their failures and corruption that have made it a global problem.

Maybe the issue isn’t how people get to work but how they’re entirely reliant one getting the things they need to survive being supplied through unsustainable means.

That is unquestionably the bigger problem, yes.

We really do need to reduce car usage, but that's not something that's easily done by individuals when the cities they live in were designed to be unsustainably car-centric. We've spent about a century accumulating infrastructure debt and there's no quick fix there. For me personally, I would not want to in a city that wasn't walkable and bikeable, and I don't ever want to drive if I can avoid it, but there aren't enough cities like that in the world for everyone to do that. I do what I can in the hope that I will contribute to reaching critical mass. And this strategy is working to a degree -- there's a lot more attention given to city infrastructure today than there was even 10 years ago. There is political pressure locally to redesign cities to be more sustainable, driven by passionate grass-roots efforts. I always promote and vote for transportation alternatives in local elections, which is always a highly divisive topic because oil addiction is pervasive, deep-rooted, and in some places even lionized.

The same argument can be made for a lot of eco-friendly lifestyle choices, like vegetarianism. I'm not a strict vegetarian, but it's really not hard to cut the vast majority of meat out of my diet. I understand that for some people that's not viable, and we don't have the infrastructure for everyone to go veg overnight anyway. So no judgment. It's a drop in the bucket, to be sure, but hey, a drop is better than nothing.

On a larger scale, we have a huge problem with our economic structure. We've chased efficiency year after year, decade after decade, and now we're so gosh-darned efficient that we have little redundancy or resiliency, wealth is hyper-concentrated, and local economies just bleed resources into the void. What would it take to feed a major city without importing food by truck and ship? It's hard to imagine. It would require change at many levels of society, from the personal to the global.

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