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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I can agree to 80% but also disagree with 80%. None of those are simple cut and dry situations and a simple answer is naive at best. And, most importantly, I can say that without sitting on a fence

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's nuance that's almost entirely missing from much of online discussions. In my experience; the more I learn about a topic, the more I realize how much I don't know/how complex it is. Then there's also the fact that most simplistic and absolute statements are almost guranteed to be wrong. Not literally all cops are bad.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Then there's also the fact that most simplistic and absolute statements are almost guranteed to be wrong.

So why are you the one making simplistic absolute statements here? Are you just making a Strawman you can knock down?

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What is this simplistic and absolute statement of mine that you're refering to here?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

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[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think it's pretty accurate summary of the general attitude towards things here on Lemmy. In no way is it an absolute statement.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I think it’s pretty accurate summary of the general attitude towards things here on Lemmy.

So much for trying to understand the nuance of opposing viewpoints.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're just being snide here and not in any way explaining what is it that you disagree with me here exactly. There's plenty of people replying to that comment that they more or less agree with that summary. It's a generalization. Ofcourse it lacks nuance. That's the average attitude of a group, not any one individual.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Right, so no one has actually said that. You've invented an argument no one is making based on a generalization, and then patting yourself on the back for how well you've pointed out how bad the argument is (that you invented and no one actually made).

It's the definition of a straw man. You're not even twisting some one else's argument, you've invented one entirely on your own to knock down.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Like I said; it's the general attitude of Lemmings as a group. Not that of any individual. If you don't understand how averages work then I can't help you. The fact that you don't know anyone with 1.5 children doesn't mean it's not the average amount of kids of families with kids.

Straw man means misrepresenting someone's argument. It's called hollow man when you made up the argument entirely.

Did you look at the replies to that comment? Does that seem like people disagree with my post?

Where is the lie?

Do you have an example on why any of these povs are wrong?

i can easily agree with 90% of that.

I can agree to 80% but also disagree with 80%.

I also agree with most of that

Lol what maniac would hold opposite opinions for all of these?

To be honest, I agree with all of these.

Yeah, I guess there is some truth to it.

this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2024
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