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openSUSE Tumbleweed vs openSUSE MicroOS
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Agreed. And I do understand wayland is the future, having done studies around X11 a bit. The problem for long time users like me is that there are still expert apps and use cases that aren't covered by wayland, at least for now. And because the current benefits of wayland are not obvious they will complain if their distros transition to wayland too soon.
yeah with the exception of krita (which runs fine on xwayland, even with a tablet) I've been able to run 100% Wayland, with sway for work and KDE for home, but my needs aren't too wild. I'm sure a lot of users feel like the rug was unnecessarily pulled out from under them; change that feels like a regression even for very good reason will almost never feel like reason enough if it's your shit that gets worse, definitely.
still, I think you've got to get people using the thing if you want the thing to get better. probably more casual users didn't even notice when gnome moved over, for example. but probably even the most casual user ran into some problem, and that's a bummer.
out of curiosity what use cases/software has stopped you from running Wayland? I do miss the magic of tunneling an X session over SSH, that felt like dang magic in the early 2000s.
Remote desktops. I think the main complaints are the performance. To me the issue is that with x11vnc you could remote into an existing display, even the login screen. Recent Gnome finally seems to have it for wayland, but afaik KDE still doesn't have it.
ah definitely. I haven't tried it out yet but I think they improved that in plasma 6.1. although that's absolutely the point you were making: lots of things that used to work fine on X11 that Wayland just doesn't have yet.