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Do you have a source on the circumcision being a tool to deter masturbation? I grew up understanding that it was yet one more thing that the Christians co-opted from the Jewish faith, and it was done because Christians wanted to cosplay gods chosen people.
Anecdotally, I’ve never heard a single person complain about masturbation difficulties due to being circumcised. I mean I guess if you performed the procedure at puberty it would be even more horrifying and traumatizing than doing it at birth, but I’m just not making the connection here.
'Discouraging the act of male masturbation quickly became a “major reason why doctors, educationists and childcare experts sought to introduce widespread circumcision.”'
https://journals.troy.edu/index.php/test/article/download/386/302
This was the 1800s, and then after it was more of "this is just what we do now".
Thanks for that! I guess my parents and their religious “leadership” just invented reasoning for it after the fact in order to justify the practice without having to think about the why of it.
Religion and lying about why they do things, name a more iconic duo.
I know from someone who had to get circumcised at 18 for medical reasons that you do lose a good bit of sensitivity. Not saying that necessarily means that that's the reasoning. What's interesting though is that circumstances among Christians isnt really a thing in Europe. I wonder how it became so big in the US.
Somebody sourced supporting documentation that it was originally done to prevent masturbation. My thought process was that, from experience, jerking off still feels good regardless, and if you perform the procedure on an infant they’ll never know it could feel better, so where’s the deterrent?
I’m glad we’re still practicing genital mutilation in 2024 just because some guy from a time when we treated people with hacksaws and leeches said so though.
but does it feel good without external lubrication? when you have a foreskin you don't need any sort of lube, even just the foreskin itself effectively acts as a lubricant before even accounting for how it enables pre to not instantly evaporate
I've seen posts with people saying that if you're uncircumcised you can do it without lube. I don't know if it's true or not because I am circumcised and definitely can't. At least not for very long. If it's true I'd consider that a big enough drawback to complain about.
Not circumcised and I've never use lube or lotion. It always confused me why in me, myself, and Irene why he had lotion next to his bed and I didn't connect it with masterbation as I said I never used anything.
I (not circumsized) don't think the lube/non-lube thing is relevant that much. It works but lube is definitely still a good idea.
What I do think makes a difference is the missing sensitive skin though. The inside of the foreskin is very sensitive, much like the glans. And when you pull it back, that skin is on the outside of quite a bit of your shaft.
I think for people like myself who were circumcized at birth the brain just compensates for the reduced sensitivity. Hell, even people who are literally missing their penis can still orgasm by jerking an imaginary penis. Circumcision's still a completely unnecessary medical procedure for most, but it has surprisingly little effect on the subjective experience of sex.
I can attest to it being true.