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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I don't know, I don't deny what you say, but as I was answering to another, then the United States is not a democracy anymore, it is a plutocracy where a few elites can decide policies, but the population lacks the capacity to change the trends even if there is a broad consensus for it.

this is sad

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've noticed that the loudest the politicians in a country rant about how great a Democracy that country has, the less of a Democracy it is.

In Europe, for example, you get British Politicians going on an one about how the country has the "Oldest Democracy in The World" (this in a country with a King who a few years ago - well, his mother - was found to actually have some power over what legislation gets passed, an unlected second chamber with members who inherit their seat from their parents and First Past The Post for Parliament) all the while in The Netherlands (who, IMHO, have probably the most Democratic system in the World, including Proportional Vote, though with a powerless King) politians pretty much never rant about the quality of their Democracy.

At least in the West, the most loud and relentless proclaimers of how great their Democracy is by a large margin are American politicians.

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As an American, I would also say the most loud and relentless proclaimers about our democracy are also our right wing voters. Nationalism is a hell of a drug. I wouldn't necessarily say it's only our politicians. I went to school with people who unironically would start USA chants.

Though I'm not saying we don't have the same thing on the left. I think more of America's left recognizes how shitty our county actually is for regular people.

I know I rambled a bit there... Anyway, I agree with your point entirely about the loudest they rant about democracy, the less there actually is.

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