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[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes we could just shoot the severs, but what if the AI develops an anti-bullet shield, and then we shoot it with anti-bullet shield bullets, and then it creates an anti-bullet shield bullet bullet shield, and then, ... and then ...

Anyway, those kinds of kids reality free, imagination games of move and counter move were pretty cool when you were 8 years old.

Sorry got distracted a bit and just wanted to share, not related to the topic at hand.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

this kinda happened with antitank weapons and highest iteration now is antitank missile paired with anti-anti-antitank missile. it's rpg-30, russian wunderwaffe manufactured in symbolic numbers which only caused western militaries to develop countermeasures and was never used on large scale in any war

[-] grumpybozo@toad.social 2 points 4 months ago

@skillissuer Used in Ukraine. Possibly because they were running out of basic antiweapons.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago

all 20 of them?

everything that goes boom was used by now, but i doubt it'll make a major difference

[-] grumpybozo@toad.social 3 points 4 months ago

@skillissuer I have no idea how they could have been *needed* against Ukrainian tanks. My impression was that they didn’t have any tanks with active defense until they got EU/NATO models, but I could be wrong.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago

what makes me think that APSs are not a real factor either way is that everyone slaps ERA and anti-drone mesh on everything, which would interfere with radar. APSs historically had a huge blind spot on top, which is a bad thing in a war with drones. also, major user of APSs, IDF, slapped anti-drone grids on top of their tanks at the beginning of current Gaza war, so kinda probably that means that they are not really sure that it works good enough

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago

Ukrainians have this thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaslin_Active_Protection_System but i've never seen something like Drozd/Arena used, nor western APSs. plenty of ERA everywhere tho

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