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they're illegal aliens - not migrants.
entering the country outside of an approved border crossing = illegal. attempting to emigrate by illegally crossing the border into another country gets you locked up and deported back to your country of origin. non-citizens who illegally enter the country have no rights in the country they're illegally entering.
there are perfectly legal methods of obtaining a valid visa or other immigration documentation. if you choose to ignore that and illegally enter the country you're going to end up in a cage.
Bruh, try to understand this: The people who are facing dehydration, starvation, and heat stroke crossing the desert are not rich people. There are legal methods of immigrating to the US, if you have money. These are poor, desperate people. Even people who immigrate illegally with a little bit of money tend to favor flying in legally and letting their visa expire...not potentially dying while crossing the desert on the way.
Think about it, no matter how bad shit gets in the United States (whether R or D in charge), the only people who actually leave the US are people with means. Everyone else toughs it out, because they can't afford other options. Shit never gets bad enough here for poor people to get up and leave.
Where these people are coming from, their lives are literally so fucking bad, that it doesn't matter that they have no money to their name - they have to get out. They see no other options. Leaving and facing the US Border Patrol (or worse, Piss Baby Greg Abbotts personal army) is legitimately preferable to what they're leaving behind.
Let's treat them like human beings. Let's try showing some goddamned compassion.
For many of them, their whole family are literally marked for death because they come from countries like Honduras, which are run by criminal gangs. So risking all they risk to come for America? They aren't just coming for themselves, they're coming to save their entire family's lives. And we repay them by separating those families when they get here. It's shameful.
why cant they go south? several South American countries are doing pretty well. why do they need to flood our borders, and do it illegally?
Who's it hurting? The more people we educate and bring up, the more capable at all levels our country becomes.
We're a country of both laws and compassion, and we're all team human.
unwilling to answer the questions, eh? figures.
it's not America's job to save everyone. it's a waste of our tax dollars to be compassionate.
I come from a country that believes in second chances, taking care of your neighbors and paying it forward. That country's America.
If you don't like it, you can get out.
fortunately, a rapidly diminishing part of the country agrees with that nonsense
Lol doesn't seem like it.
Congratulations on outting yourself as a sociopath. You'll have all the fake friends in the world waiting to stab you in the back, and live in a true hell of your own making. Enjoy!
Are asylum-seekers illegal? Anyone crossing the border could be an asylum seeker.
"To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process the person must be physically present in the United States... People can apply for asylum regardless of how they arrived in the US"
sure, they could be but they arent.
You tried to make a blanket statement that they are all illegal when entering surreptitiously is a valid way of making an asylum claim.
Extremely difficult legal methods that rarely work out, especially if you're poor and not from Europe.
You might as well just say, "only rich people should be allowed to emigrate."
lies. one of my colleague's wife just got citizenship recently & they're from the middle east
Okay, what does that have to do with anything I said? Is she poor? I doubt it.
they're not rich - they've got 5 kids and they're not from Europe. I was just refuting your point because you're wrong. accept it
I said nothing about citizenship, so...
ah, deflecting? well played
How am I deflecting? I was talking about immigration, not citizenship.