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A party that wants to leave the UK losing seats is bad for the long-term prospects of the country? 🤔
A party like Reform getting even a single seat is bad for the long-term prospects of this country.
Well obviously Lemmy would say this, but a single seat is meaningless. Even 13 (if true) means they don't exactly have a huge amount of power.
The problem is the trend. Reform growing means that the Tories will likely go (even further) right to meet them. Farage is already eyeing up becoming leader the Conservatives.
I think the main issue the tories lost wasn't because of a sudden trend towards leftism, but because of how ridiculously corrupt they became
Do you care that the DUP has seats?
No, reform will be equally meaningless.
Not really comparable since the DUP is constrained to Northern Ireland and never even considers entering mainland UK. The Conservative party, Labour party and Lib Dems rarely run in Northern Ireland if ever, so the parties don't have to worry about them. Reform is UK-Wide and actively snatched votes from the Tories.
The DUP propped up May's government which put through Brexit. They take their seats and speak in debates. They have an effect, but not much of one with so few seats, and Reform is on a similar number. They will be a similar small voice in Westminster.
The vote share is a different issue. Some Tories will be looking at that longingly, but I suspect they would alienate more than they'd recruit if they actually shifted in that direction.
I mean it's still to do with competition. Whenever smaller parties get a larger vote share, they influence the larger parties. That's basically how Brexit happened with UKIP
Reform has 14% of the popular vote. The Tories will be chasing that.
Not necessarily. Obviously the majority of the seats are going to Labour. Those are the voters they need to win back. They're not going to do that by appealing to Reform voters.
Labour is winning so many seats because Reform is splitting the right vote. The Tories did so well in 2019 because Reform agreed not to field any candidates to stop Corbyn.