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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by onlinepersona@programming.dev to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

The only real attempt at monetisation that I've seen is https://beetoons.tv/, but they use their own crypto - making it like Odysee. Why is that?

Edit: Please, before you answer consider this monetisation doesn't mean ads!

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

It's true that peer tube is the ugly duck of the fediverse right now. But I don't think is about monetization.

On its core it's true that is the most complex project as videos are resource heavy, and producing videos is time consuming.

I don't think people does not make videos because lack of monetization but because lack of users. And there are little users because there are little content.

IMHO the UI and UX should be the smoothest of all fediverse because it need to put it as easy as it can to everyone to attract as many users or creators as possible.

Because, let's be true, monetization (even you can already monetize if you want) is useless is there's nobody watching anyway.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

IMHO the UI and UX should be the smoothest of all fediverse because it need to put it as easy as it can to everyone to attract as many users or creators as possible.

Thats true of ALL platforms. Fediverse or not. Biggest reason Linux fails where Windows 11 sucseeds is because the vast VAST majority cannot figure out linux's user experience.

In windows, you install a program by downloading a file, and double clicking it. To change settings you go into the control panel. To update a program, you download another file, just like installing it.

I could literally never have a keyboard hooked up to a windows pc, assuming all my web browser bookmarks are already saved, and I don't want to reply to any messages online.

With Linux, you can't do that. You can't just uninstall terminal, and expect to get help online if something is new and confusing to you. First thing they say in Linux is "ok, to help with this problem, open up terminal". It's baked into the Linux culture, just the same as a mouse is baked into the Windows culture since the 80s.

Now I use Linux as a standin for peertube, or any other platform since I haven't used peertube. But the lack of Linux users, despite having the technical superior OS just shows how a bad user experience can cripple a platform.

The way Linux sucseeds is by having a distro that embeds into its own culture the lack of terminal. A distro that not only DOESN'T come with terminal, but uses it as a "selling" point. Heavy airquotes there since I'm not suggesting that this distro cost money.

As for peertube, I've been meaning to try it for a while. All it needs is good content, good user experience, and it should be the EASIEST of the fediverse platforms to sucseed. Look at youtube. Find me one creator who says "I enjoy dealing with youtubes overarching control and restrictions".

I'll wait.....actually no I won't. I got things to do.

Point is, if you normalize a federated video platform where the content creator can control their own hosting? Youtube would die, and content creators could negotiate their own prices to serve ads individually on their videos.

And they don't HAVE TO host their own videos. Just that they can.

If I host a peertube instance, and 5 of my friends want to create videos, but not host them, then I can host them. But if I get greedy and say they must obide by my rules, then they can say fuck off and host it themselves. It takes overarching power away from the hoster, and that would be VERY appealing to a lot of content creators.

Then once you have the good user interface, and good content, you gain the followers, and with the followers comes the monetization.

And yes, it will be ads. Because if there were a better model, don't you think tv, and streaming services, and youtube, and the internet would have already been doing so by now?

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Biggest reason Linux fails where Windows 11 sucseeds is because the vast VAST majority cannot figure out linux’s user experience.

Nope, the bigest reason why windows is more popular than linux is the same as youtube is more popular than peertube - its the default and most people dont look past that. Honestly default Gnome UX is better than win11 these days unless you already have thousands of hours of windows muscle memory, which a very large chunk of people do.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

The way Linux sucseeds is by having a distro that embeds into its own culture the lack of terminal. A distro that not only DOESN’T come with terminal, but uses it as a “selling” point.

This is the stupidest idea I've heard since I heard the stupidest idea and that was in this same channel / community, a few months ago. Half the power of Linux is the terminal, because you can be expressive in doing things there that simply can't be done in a reproducible manner in GUIs. and reproducibility is very important when you want people to adopt Linux because you need the support you give to work "almost everywhere", which the terminal does.

What is missing, more than "no terminal", is "everything (or at least most of the stuff) that is doable in a terminal SHOULD have an associated standard to access it via a GUI". But then you get into issues such as "the start menu should be in THIS corner of the screen and labelled THIS way and have the menus in THIS order"... and at the end that's just corporate Gnome image, which by this point is just Windows but for Linux (see: Icaza, Potterdung, et al.).

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