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I think we're on the same page, but looking at it from different angles.
I've uninstalled updates and disabled the apps, but a system update restores them. I would imagine that disabling them with ADB would end up with the same result. Removing them with root should, in theory at least, remove them completely.
If I get more than five minutes to myself this weekend, I'll try the ADB method and see what happens ๐