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It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month.

He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw

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[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago
[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Presumably because currently, activitypub doesn't have a module for secure message exchange that can't be snooped on by a server admin.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Not but there are 7369543 other "modules" you can already use.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Because fedi is going to take away all Meta/Facebook's proprietary toys, WhatsApp included.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] HR_Pufnstuf@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

Because fragmentation of chat apps is bad

[-] diablexical@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

If there’s n of something and n+1 breaks it, then it was broken to begin with.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find it interesting that people who don’t really think about these things much often have a default sentiment that everyone on a single platform is better.

It’s especially true of people who just exploit platforms for attention. It breaks the rules they have built up in their heads about how to be important and have status.

Just kinda thinking out loud here.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I find it interesting that people who don’t really think about these things much often have a default sentiment that everyone on a single platform is better.

No one thinks that. We just think having everyone on a different platform is bad.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can you clarify the nuance you are pointing out? I really have heard multiple people assume they will be forced to be on every platform if multiple platforms become active/popular. They express they think a single platform is preferable.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I explained this in another comment. I don't want to have to keep 20 chat apps on my phone just to talk to my friends and family. I don't want another one. Pretty simple.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, I see. I got way off track and was thinking about Social Media not messengers. Apologies.

[-] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Competition is good, especially with regards to privacy and cyber security. Customers benefit when companies don't have a captured market. A lack of competition only leads to monopolies and stagnation.

If no one offers a secure product, then customers have no choice but to either not use anything or put up with it. Competition means that at any time a newcomer can offer a better product (that is hopefully open source).

Edit to add: Ideally you could message people on different apps with the same account. But I'll take fragmentation over a monopoly.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Hard disagree. People actually being able to use apps is good. The smallest amount of privacy and security is a thousand times better than WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger or whatever other Meta garbage people are using.

Wickr, Threema, Telegram, blah blah blah there's too many chat apps already.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

You are already on another social media. Just not a centralized one.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...huh? Who is talking about social media?

[-] Gnubyte@lemdit.com -1 points 1 year ago

You are on the wrong platform then

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Theres reasons to pm stuff. Some used it on reddit for stuff like exchanging adresses for trading tea, sweets, etc.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There are already hundreds of ways to PM stuff. Why do we need another?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I don't want to give strangers my personal cell, discord, twittter, whatever handle here publicly. If there is a need to exchange secret informatiom, how will you take this convo elsewhere?

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

How is it that your Matrix handle is "personal" but your Sup. handle is not?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don't have matrix?

Anyway: Platform specific handle being "public" is not a problem. What is a problem (to me) is the association with other platforms I am on. No one besides those that actually should know it (hence PM), need to know it.

Do I reuse my username on many platforms? Sure do.
Do I need to tell you? Nope brother!

Also: Why should I take my conversation from here to exchange confidential information than just letting it stay here?

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have matrix?

My point, exactly.

Why should I take my conversation from here to exchange confidential information than just letting it stay here?

I've already answered that.

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