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PS.

I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

I think all of these points really come down to the Supreme Court makeup, which got fucked under Trump. Trump was able to nominate 3 justices, which created the super majority we have now.

So no it’s not going to be worse. It’s going to be the same as it ever was in either case.

They have indicated that they want to undo previous decisions which codified gay rights. This isn't a red state/blue state issue, it will affect the whole country.

We just approved forcing homeless people into camps

The same court made the decision about making homelessness illegal. The most direct way to stop these horrible decisions from being made will be to support the impeachment of the corrupt justices, and ensure that we have a president who will nominate justices who aren't corrupt and taking away our rights.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Okay I need you to understand this. The Red States have been ignoring the old Supreme Court rulings. They do not care. and the Homeless laws I'm talking about were passed by Democrats, in contravention of old Supreme Court rulings.

This is not a SCOTUS issue. They're the scapegoat on these issues and the myth that there would be substantive change if we just kept Biden in office.

Either States are powerful enough to ignore the federal government, or they aren't. And the implications of that are not good for Biden either way. Because he's either powerless, in which case so would Trump be, or he's willfully allowing this, in which case the worst case scenario is already playing out.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Red States have been ignoring the old Supreme Court rulings.

Citation needed. Regardless if states follow the rulings, the supreme court can shift the views of the nation. After 2015 same sex marriage ruling, there was much higher support for same sex marriage, with noticable large increases with Republicans corresponding to the Supreme Court ruling:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/06/26/support-for-same-sex-marriage-grows-even-among-groups-that-had-been-skeptical/

From the Article from 2017:

For the first time, a majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents do not oppose allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally.

To your other point:

myth that there would be substantive change if we just kept Biden in office.

When Biden assumed office, we were in the middle of a global pandemic, still social distancing because there were no vaccines, and we're having a 9/11 worth of American deaths every day. Maybe returning to normal life wasn't substantive for you, but there have been huge changes over the last 3.5 years of the Biden presidency.

Because he's either powerless, in which case so would Trump be, or he's willfully allowing this, in which case the worst case scenario is already playing out.

In this situation, do you think Trump would be willingly allowing atrocities or actively driving and enabling them? A Trump presidency would clearly be the worst case scenario here.

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this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2024
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