540
Plato vs Democracy
(lemmy.ml)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2024
540 points (97.9% liked)
Comics
5825 readers
300 users here now
This is a community for everything comics related! A place for all comics fans.
Rules:
1- Do not violate lemmy.ml site-wide rules
2- Be civil.
3- If you are going to post NSFW content that doesn't violate the lemmy.ml site-wide rules, please mark it as NSFW and add a content warning (CW). This includes content that shows the killing of people and or animals, gore, content that talks about suicide or shows suicide, content that talks about sexual assault, etc. Please use your best judgement. We want to keep this space safe for all our comic lovers.
4- No Zionism or Hasbara apologia of any kind. We stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 . Zionists will be banned on sight.
5- The moderation team reserves the right to remove any post or comments that it deems a necessary for the well-being and safety of the members of this community, and same goes with temporarily or permanently banning any user.
Guidelines:
- If possible, give us your sources.
- If possible, credit creators of each comics in the title or body of your post. If you are the creator, please credit yourself. A simple “- Me” would suffice.
- In general terms, write in body of your post as much information as possible (dates, creators, editors, links).
- If you found the image on the web, it is encouraged to put the direct link to the image in the ‘Link’ field when creating a post, instead of uploading the image to Lemmy. Direct links usually end in .jpg, .png, etc.
- One post by topic.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
"Democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the others"
I still can't find a way to disprove this statement. Popular vote inherently favors the majority as opposed to minorities and only cares about charisma. And yet, nothing else seems to beat it.
The only one I could think of is putting in a guy/AI that's really benevolent and competent this time guys I pinky swear.
I could see an AI being up to the task. At least with such an artificial system, you can hard-code guardrails and a constitution that a parliament can agree upon.
Of course, I wouldn't want current LLM-based AI anywhere near the reigns of power. Such a system would need to have proven itself secure and incorruptible over decades before we put it in power.
I'm still rooting for benevolent aliens stepping in, telling humanity it's not capable of self care, and forcing us to clean up the planet so we can live on it as a wildlife preserve.
But how are the aliens governed?
In my fantasy, they're Star Trek style space communists as they're more than intelligent enough to make rational decisions.
There are no such things as AIs, but other than that, sure!
You can bake in biases that you don't even know are biases, which hands power to a certain group, and then that group refuses to fix the "AI" because doing so would reduce their power.
I don't think anybody who works with computers would suggest that a computer be put in charge. It seems mostly to be the idea from people who only look at computers from afar and see them as these logical, unbiased oracles, which they're not.
You forgot the most important part of that quote (that's not actually a quote).
what about consensus systems? instead of going for a majority, u discuss different solutions until everyone is satisfied or at least ok with the proposed plan
Kinda what congress is right now because of filibusters; and like congress they would be paralyzed and ineffective once there's some polarity.
i mean, good point. so what if u have a vote to kick someone for stalling or filibustering?