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I feel like this is referencing something I'm out of the loop on
https://variety.com/2024/music/news/jack-black-cancels-tenacious-d-tour-trump-assassination-kyle-gass-1236073486/
Jack Black canceled his tour after Kyle Gass made a joke about the Trump assassination attempt.
Let's not bury the lede here: the joke in question was making a birthday wish while blowing out candles saying "don't miss next time". Joke or not, that is publicly encouraging the assassination of a former president.
Like, there's a big difference between "I heard he shit his pants when the bullets started flying" and "I hope it happens again and succeeds this time".
Fuck Trump. Fuck everything about him. But you gotta know that shit isn't acceptable when standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo
EDIT: Whole lot of people in here can't fucking read lmao. I don't give a shit about Trump, conservatives, or anyone on that side of this issue. I just know that it's a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living. Y'all need to get a grip
Spare us the sanctimonious lecturing. I don’t give a single shit about the pearl clutching coming from conservatives after they spent the last two years thinking it was utterly hilarious that a lunatic with a hammer savagely attacked Paul Pelosi… Including Donald “look at my YUGE bandage” Trump. They can dish it out but they can’t take it, fuck this apologia nonsense. A comedian made a tasteless joke about Trump at a concert in Australia. Boo hoo.
As far as I’m concerned the only one whose reputation has taken a hit here is JB. Immediately throwing Kyle Gass under the bus, cancelling their tour, and announcing “all creative plans are on hold” over that seems like a massive overreaction. I still think he’s an incredibly talented dude and he seems like an otherwise good person but it has made me think quite a bit less of him.
Edit: And now this jackass is doubling down and insisting anyone that disagrees with their stupid point simply didn’t understand it. Blocked.
I thought everyone (incl GP) understood? It's right there in the title of the post.
lmao calling it spineless is the epitome of missing the forest for the trees. JB is taking heat he never had to while Kyle sits off to the side looking like a victim now. JB gets to keep his career, and they'll be back on tour in two months when everyone has forgotten this happened. You all want him to make a stink for YOUR own satisfaction when, in reality, he's taking the L like a champ because it's what's best for everyone involved after a mistake was made.
Bunch of children who can't see past the tips of your own noses, you lot.
Are you just copy pasting a lot of these? FWIW I understand what point you are trying to argue.
No but I am unfortunately having to repeat myself a lot
How the fuck do you square saying you agree with his position while also saying it isnt justifiable?
I didn't say it wasn't justifiable? The content of the statement is justifiable. That doesn't mean it was a smart thing to say in the time and place he said it.
And in your worldview, it'll just be a race to the bottom.
JB did the right thing. Him and Kyle will be able to come back from this because of the actions of JB. After all, who is the heat on now? It's not Kyle. He looks like a victim now. Jacks taking the heat. Heat he can easily handle. Heat that will fade away in the coming months and be forgotten.
Instead of throwing a massive fight back and blowing the situation up even more out of proportion. Instead of now having to wonder if you've made yourself a target of insane Trumpers.
This was masterful PR and it shows who knows actual PR and who has too much ego to take an L when needed. This pretty much guaranteed that JB AND Kyle are protected. Everyone took just enough dirt to look like they got punished but it's not enough to actually end anyone.
The only race with fascist is the race to the gas station to make sure the eaves are strong enough
Glad there's at least one other person here who gets that this wasn't a political decision but a PR one
Literally everybody here gets this. It's in the fucking title of the post... And it is also exactly why everybody is hating on JB now and downvoting your comments. JB should have stood by his lifelong friend and creative partner, and care fuck all about the corporatist PR image after one bad joke. Especially because Kyle's joke wasn't a career endingly bad one. But JB made it out to be one. He has effectively killed KG's career now, by blowing the thing way out of proportion, completely unnecessarily. All because he thought that HIS career was in danger too. That is why everybody is angry at him now. He has acted 100% selfishly.
What he should have done, if anything, was to say sthing like, "Kyle made a mistake, it was a joke in bad taste. But I've known him forever, I know he's a good man with a good heart. He will reflect on this and learn from it and do better in the future. An assassination attempt, and the death of an innocent bystander can never be a joke. We will dedicate the oncoming stages of the tour and all proceeds from it to the family of the victim. Blah blah blah". That's all JB had to do and say.
Instead he threw KG totally under the bus, ended his career, and by making the morally wrong choice, probably damaged his own as well.
I'm not going to retype my explanation of why this is a childish view of the situation. You can read my other comments in a different fork of this thread if you want to learn why this is self-righteous, self-satisfying crap. That's what YOU want. It's not what's actually best for JB or Kyle.
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Kyle Gass apologized himself the day after.
What would have been best would be for them both to batten down the hatches and let it blow over, what JB did was needlessly escalate the situation. Even if his intentions are as you imagine them to be and the two are back on tour in a couple of months, but that can't be taken as a given as you're doing.
Curious what sort background qualifies you to make better decisions than either of them and their undoubtedly overpaid yet highly experienced staff.
The "escalation" wasn't needless. In fact while it may appear to be an escalation, for all you know it was a mitigation against journalists who were already preparing to make giant headlines and give FOX news another thing to rile their base with.
Sometimes you see a train barreling towards you and jump off the tracks despite the injury you know you're going to take when you land.
I'm sure some vaudevillians were patting each other on the back and saying the same thing, right before World War II.
They were wrong then and you are wrong now.
Whether or not Jack black is engaging in pr has nothing to do with ww2
Speedrunning Godwin's law, are we?
Jack Black distancing himself from talk of assassination isn't what leads us to WW3 you absolute mongrel. Trump being a malleable narcissist with delusions of dictatorship, a soulless GOP, funding genocide, failing to stop Russian westward expansion, and actual spineless Democrats who can't play the game half as well as their opposition are what lead us to WW3