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Microsoft points finger at the EU for not being able to lock down Windows (www.neowin.net)

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[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 months ago

Fuck Microsoft and fuck Windows.

But if you inject hacky bullshit third party code into someone's OS that breaks things, it's not the OS's fault.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

But in this case Microsoft certified the driver. If they knew the driver included an interpreter that can run arbitrary code, they shouldn't have certified it because they can not fully test it. If they didn't know, then their certification test are inadequate. Most of the blame lies with the security software. If Microsoft didn't certify it, they would have had zero fault.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Certifying a driver is not an endorsement.

It is a verification that it is legitimately from who it claims to be from. Microsoft has zero fault, period.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

The Windows Hardware Certification program (formerly Windows Hardware Quality Labs Testing, WHQL Testing, or Windows Logo Testing) is Microsoft's testing process which involves running a series of tests on third-party device drivers, and then submitting the log files from these tests to Microsoft for review. The procedure may also include Microsoft running their own tests on a wide range of equipment, such as different hardware and different Microsoft Windows editions.

[-] sandalbucket@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For the Nth time, crowdstrike circumvented the testing process

Edit: this is not to say that cs didn’t have to in order to provide their services, nor is this to say that ms didn’t know about the circumvention and/or delegate testing of config files to CS. I’ll take any opportunity to rag on MS, but in this case it is entirely on CS.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

I had a read about the WHQL (which I assumes what certified means). It uses the Windows HLK to perform a series of tests, which submited to Microsoft, and only then the driver will be signed.

While certification isn't endorsement, the testing and the resulting certification implies basic compatibility and reliability. And causing bootloops and BSODs is anywhere but close to "basic compatibility and reliability."

[-] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Crowdstrike bypassed WHQL because the update was not to the driver, it was to a configuration file that then gets ingested by the driver. It's deliberate so they can push out updates for developing threats without being slowed down by the WHQL process.

And that means when they decide to just send it on a Friday with a buggy config file, nobody is responsible but Crowdstrike.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh wow. Then definitely CS is in fault. What a brilliant idea they have.

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