153
Protestation (discuss.tchncs.de)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Sure.

And this is the truth about China and Communism:

[-] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago

what does this have to do with houseless people?

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah it would be crazy if state security forces regularly beat, maimed, shot, and killed citizens for simply exercising their rights to exist on a daily basis.

Oh sorry that’s the US, dang shithole countries messing up my memory.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Some nice whataboutism you got there.

[-] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Full sequence: https://xcancel.com/CarlZha/status/1134582926325104641

You won't believe what happens next 😱😱😱😱😱😱

spoilerNext time get better material, lib

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

China's not communist It's state capitalism with a single party rule.

What part about China looks to you like the means of production are controlled by the working class?

What part of the Chinese Communist party do you see opposing the ownership of businesses or social stratification?

Communism is just a red herring. It's what a lot of fascists write on the label of their revolution to make it easier to consolidate power. China about as communist as North Korea is a "democratic People's Republic".

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

You might want to consider reading China Has Billionaires. Nobody will tell you the PRC is fully socialized, it in fact does have large amounts of Capitalistic production. There is a case to be made, however, that the CPC has maintained a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, and oversees a largely Socialized economy.

They are of course no where near lower-stage Communism, but they do appear to be transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism. Critique of the Gotha Programme makes it explicitly clear that social progress cannot outpace Material Reality. Given that the US is intertwined with the PRC, and the emerging multi-polar world is not yet here, the PRC could risk their geopolitical stability by nationalizing faster than they are. This is something the USSR failed to keep under control, which played a part in their collapse.

Overall, "State Capitalist" is wrong, but so is the notion that the PRC has a fully Socialized economy. It is a transitional economy.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

The truth is... three tanks and a dude?

[-] Arlaerion@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

There were WAY more tanks!!

/s

this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
153 points (90.1% liked)

Communism

1704 readers
77 users here now

Welcome to the communist Lemmy community! This is a community for all Marxist.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS