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They either don't care or ignore it. As long as their side is on top they shrug it off.
But it's not... Republican side isn't anyway.
The only 'side,' that wins out of ignoring Jan 6th is people who genuinely want trump to be king.
It is my unscientific and wholly unsubstantiated hunch that some people are okay with that because they have no idea how limited the office of the President is supposed to be, and how that keeps the train on the tracks. They might have thought they were electing a virtual king this entire time.
There is no doubt in my mind that when Trump first ran for president in 2016 that's exactly what he thought he was running for. He had no concept of the actual limitations of the president and thought that it would be carte blanche across the board.
Nah it's worse than that.
You should read about Vance, his and Trump's mutual friend and sponsor Peter Thiel, and the fucked up thinking of their friend Curtis Yarvin.
Here's a good start: https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
He wrote back in 2012 "If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia.”
That's just a start. Also remember Thiel gave Trump's campaign like 1.5M back in 2016, and considered him a "good investment".
They think they get what they want out of it. They are brainwashed. There is no turning back for some. There is a sunk cost fallacy that you gotta just watch them do it and hope some find their way.
Lots of people do want a king,, or at least, a king in the sense of an embodiment and personification of the nation. Abstract thinking is hard, most of us do it as little as possible, and some people can't do it at all, so they can't conceptualize a thing like "the state." They need a figurehead to relate to, like the king in a monarchical system. When you look at the debate through that lens, it makes sense why they'd not want Biden/their nation to appear weak and disjointed.
As an aside, I think that combining the head of government and head of state in the office of President is the worst mistake in the Constitution.