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So being religious is now being an asshole?
It is when one legislates their religious convictions onto others who do not share them.
which is something he advocates, notably the legislation of the ban of marriage equality.
Like which ones? I'm not American and I don't have to inform myself of all the laws that were passed 2016-2020 in a country that isn't mine
marriage equality, for one. he actively advocates for laws banning it, and advocates for laws banning LGBTQ equality in other ways, advocating for laws limiting/eliminating LGBTQ equality, often donating money for the purpose and to politicians who support such measures.
but if you can’t make the effort to inform yourself of at least the topic under discussion, then don’t expect others to do it for you before jumping into a conversation. that’s just rude.
What laws specifically?
Dude, I seriously want to at least know the names of those laws so I can get a first-hand judgement. Stop evading questions please
In case you're unaware, you're coming off as deliberately combative and unwilling to do even a modicum of research yourself while insisting that total strangers do all the work for you and spoon-feed you every bit of information you want.
That makes it seem like you're not actually interested in learning anything, and instead are simply looking for a fight. I wouldn't dare speculate on whether or not that's actually the case or not, but that is why you're being downvoted.
Oh, sorry, I just don't like using headlines as my main source of information
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Two quotes:
"But let me say on this issue, if we got to know each other, you'd know the Pences love everybody," Pence continued. "We treat everybody the way we want to be treated. But on this issue, and it's frankly something that when the Obergefell decision was made which legalized same-sex marriage in America, the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy wrote at the end, that this decision will likely create an intersection and tension between people in same-sex relationships and people in the exercise of their religious liberty."
"Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe," Pence said.
There's not exactly a specific law because it was decided by the Supreme Court. He'd most certainly support a law in Congress to overturn the Supreme Court decision though.
He's literally saying "I don't personally agree with it, but this country is diverse and I'll have to accept it" how's that removing LGBT rights?
Your summary is certainly not about removing LBTG rights, it's saying he agrees with the institutions of the United States. I find it interesting however that that's how you'd choose to summarize the quotes.
The part about removing LGBT rights is where he's saying that law is / should be god's will implemented and that god's will is marriage being purely between a man and a woman. He can say he loves all equally, but he shows that's not true when he classifies some people's marriages as being unworthy of legal recognition.
Again, he says that's his opinion but that America is too big and diverse to enforce it
it’s not my job to educate random internet strangers. have some self-respect and make an effort to educate yourself.
have a nice day.
If I Google "pence anti-lgbt laws" I'll probably get an already biased source that doesn't mention the laws themselves, and if you don't know them either you can just tell the internet
you may respond by writing, in as much detail as you like, in what way you believe this is my problem. I promise to downvote it.
In all the time and with all the keystrokes that you typed this chain, you could have googled "Mike pence, marriage equality".
Go eat some fish
And then why didn't you do it?
I don't need to, I'm familiar with the topic.
I'm here to call out aquatic mammals
Then don’t come to a post that deals with American politics asking dumb questions.
“Just asking questions”
Dude Lemmy is all about fucking American politics. No, not Just Lemmy, all of the internet and news is filled with that geriatric infighting you call politics
So to summarize, you’re whining about people not informing you about how things work in America- a country you don’t live in, but think somehow you’re entitled to have everyone explain shit that doesn’t even involve you?
That’s embarrassing for you.
No, I'm whining about how fucking everything is about America and how it's literally necessary to inform about your bullshit just to be on the Internet
Dude… your entire comment history is you whining about American politics. Are there no hobbies in your country, or is it that complaining about the political system in a country you don’t even live in yours? If it’s the latter, might I suggest you go touch grass? They have that where you’re from, right?
Try finding something not related to American politics here, you hairless platypus
There’s world news communities and country-specific communities if you’re not too lazy to find them. Or you can whine like a little child and call people names if that makes you fee better.
Either way, thanks for the laugh, whatever your country’s equivalent of Karen is.
Definitely not on Lemmy.world
Then find another instance and stop whining about it here. No one cares what you think. Trust me. Your comments prove that.
Just like I don't care about what you think. I will stay here and if it makes you mad then you do care
You’re pathetic, but that’s your thing. Run with it.
Well, as I said I never asked for your opinion
Looks like you managed to get it anyway.
Legislative policy based on a certain religion is violent fascism. And anyone who holds office and uses their religion to enact legislation is anti American POS, incompatible with modern civilization, no better than the worst terrorist. And they should not be tolerated in any manner that allows them to hold political power. And anyone who votes for such a candidate is no better than them.
I bet you don't even know what fascism means
Then wtf screams fascism to you in half of your country? If it's identity politics I better shut up
When hasn't it been?
Waaaaaaaaaaa. I want to be able to push my religion and ideals one everyone and not be labeled an asshole. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.
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"Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe," Pence said.