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Trump says he'll seek a new judge in election case
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He should be doing plea deals. The chances he gets found not guilty of 78 felony charges is minimal. His best scenario after pleading not guilty is 6 months to a year of house arrest. And that’s highly unlikely. He will do time.
Can you imagine any other citizen having 78 felony charges?
We’ve executed people for similar crimes. He’s lucky he has prominence.
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I assume you know that Trump’s mentor, Roy Cohn, was the prosecutor in the case against the Rosenbergs. He’s named in the Wikipedia article.
I did not. It’s like an ouroboros of corruption.
Now tell us about the lawyers who worked for Bush in Bush v. Gore and the makeup of the current Supreme Court.
That should bringer harsher penalties.
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I think it would be far more fitting a punishment for him to face his remaining few years in absolute misery. None of that “hair”, makeup, luxury, hamberders, women. Left to rot by his children and his whore. No crowds, no adulation, nothing. A pathetic, broken man, never able to escape the confines of his miserable, deeply flawed self. Left only with public humiliation, self pity, and, when the thought is able to penetrate his ironclad narcissism, the knowledge that he will be vilified by history.
I admire your optimism and wish I could believe he'll actually face consequences.
Prosecutors don't bring cases they can't win. They just don't do it. It reflects badly on them.
Add the fact that prosecuting a former president is incredibly hard. This guy 100% did all of this shit in public. They have:
There's no way anyone is getting away without a felony conviction. Plus, the lawyers involved are buttercups compared to the federal prosecutors.
I know one federal prosecutor. He is a very nice guy, very smart and will not hesitate to throw white collar criminals in jail. They ruin criminals' lives like it's their day job, because it is.
(Cough, cough) Rittenhouse (cough)
That wasn't a federal case, was it? I think it was prosecuted at a county level.
What happens if he wins the election
He will pardon himself. The problem is: He can’t pardon himself for states crimes.
They only need one MAGAt on the jury, and you only get so many challenges to get them out of the pool. It's why he wants to move the case to West Virginia: higher proportion of Trumpsters in the population, better chance of no conviction.
Not a fan of the establishment, but I think they see him as a legitimate threat. The consequence of not holding him accountable is further disillusionment in the institutions that hold our society together.
he has a very high chance of dying quite soon, so there’s that!
Evil dies hard, look at Charles Koch.
Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger say hello.
Dick Cheney IS dead. that robot heart of his whooshing his blood around doesn’t count as life.
His original heart is in a phylactery, hidden away from humankind and guarded by dark magic.
the real joke here is the thought that Dick Cheney would have anything to do with Judaism, even if his life literally depended on it.
How tf are they still alive?
That’s a good porn movie title: Evil Dies Hard
He has no interest in any deal. He's banking it all on delay till he can get back in office and pardon himself or delay till he dies
That’s a bold move Cotton.
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The chances of him getting a hung jury is actually incredibly high. I doubt they'll weed out all his supporters in jury selection. I honestly don't think they can convict him.
The only way he’s getting a hung jury is if Hunter Biden is called. /s Bazinga!
Math time! Let's assume that all people who make it to a jury have an X% chance of never voting to convict Trump regardless of the evidence. In order to be found guilty, trump would have 100*(1-X/100)^12 % chance of being found guilty and 100-last number of getting a hung jury. For reference, if X=10%, Trump has a 28.8% chance of being declared guilty.
But wait! There is more! More indictments! Currently three. Let us assume that if a case is hung, the prosecutor doesn't refile it. Let's take the amount we got from the last problem, and call it Y% of getting a conviction. The chances of all three being hung are (1-Y/100)^3, or 100*(1-(1-X/100)^12)^3. Again, let us assume X=10%, then there is a 37% chance that all three are hung, or a 63% chance that he goes to prison. More separate indictments mean more protections from MAGAs making on juries.