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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

A mutual agreement between a rapist and a victim of rape is not a compromise

If you have to descend to erroneously equating the situation to rape then you've lost the argument. You cannot rely on an emotional response to an intellectual exercise it's not only dishonest it's also unhelpful.

The world is in the state it is in not because some evil person decided to be evil one day but because of a natural development of the human condition. We can't all go back to living in caves that wouldn't work, we can't sustain the current population sitting around campfires and singing camping songs. So unless your advocating for mass genocide I don't really understand what you want here.

I would prefer to live in the real world and be a realist, I want the world to improve, but I don't believe that the way to improve it is to be an unmoving obstacle. Doing that is counterproductive to your own argument anyway because everyone will just get fed up with you and eventually ignore you.

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

erroneously equating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

emotional response

And where did I mention emotional responses?

The world is in the state it is in not because some evil person decided to be evil one day but because of a natural development of the human condition.

I somewhat agree, but it's not so much a question of nature and the human condition as a question of material circumstances and class warfare.

We can't all go back to living in caves that wouldn't work, we can't sustain the current population sitting around campfires and singing camping songs. So unless your advocating for mass genocide I don't really understand what you want here.

Ah yes the two options boring cyberpunk dystopias and hunter-gatherer. No in-between. None at all. /s

would prefer to live in the real world and be a realist, I want the world to improve, but I don't believe that the way to improve it is to be an unmoving obstacle

But you just said that you don't even understand what kind of world people want these days. I'm all for being effective, but it doesn't seem like you believe in the possibility of structural change we need.

Doing that is counterproductive to your own argument anyway because everyone will just get fed up with you and eventually ignore you.

Not how it works at all historically.

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