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What is the conservative view on how intersex people should live their lives
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Imo, do whatever you want. The only caveat is in very specific situations like women's sports, where fairness is an issue. Testosterone is a steroid, and is banned from most leagues. Unfortunately, mtf trans women still produce steroids, and is unfair to cis women. And since the whole point of women's sports is for them to be able to compete fairly, trans women are in a bind
It's no one's fault really, just an unfortunate biproduct of evolution.
I'm not talking about trans people, I'm talking about intersex people.
Oh sorry. I have a really bad habit about that.
On intersex people, imo it needs to be on a case by case basis, and I do not have the expertise to weigh in on it.
That said, IMHO, it should fairly strict. The mens side should remain open to all. The women's side should be for women only, since other wise they'd lose everytime.
...Except that they don't. It depends on the sport. Danica Patrick out-competed men in drag racing. Shooting sports with stationary targets tend to have almost complete gender parity. On the other hand, no men at all are competing in artistic swimming, despite the fact that they are permitted to. And there's not any kind of straight line between testosterone and performance; yeah, lots and lots of testosterone is good for bulking up, but it's not so great for ultramarathon runners.
For boxing specifically, men win.
Again: it's not that cut and dried. In the same weight classes, men and women are much more competitive. When you look at weight classes for women versus the weight classes for men, you see much broader range of weights for men, e.g., 51-57kg for men, and 50-54kg for women. My bet is that, all training being equal, you'd probably see very little variation between men and women for a 50kg boxer. (But fewer women take up boxing in the first place, and they get into boxing later in life. So it's difficult to compare.)
There are def. differences, but those differences get really hard to nail down and assign definitively to one gender or another when you're looking at a micro level. Neurobiology isn't a simple, middle-school level subject.
Let's clarify this a bit. Testosterone is a steroid, but so is vitamin D. Testosterone is NOT banned for any competition, but being out of range is banned. A man at 750 would be normal.
A woman at 100 would be abnormal. A woman at 750 is on juice.
A bodybuilder can be in the range of 2000-4000. I have heard as high as 6,000.
Women produce testosterone as well. Their range is 15-70
A trans woman may produce testosterone, but once they have an orchiectomy, they will no longer produce and may have to supplement.
That said, an intersex woman like the one at the Olympics is not a trans woman. She was born with a genetic defect, which allows he to produce more testosterone.
It's tricky as I don't know if she should be banned or not. She isn't as strong as a man, but she is stronger than most women. Once you add in the weight lifting, she is going to be a lot stronger, but she is a woman.
From a safety issue, I could see banning her, but it is unfair that she was just born different.