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Aww are the widdle capitalists upset the workers are realising how much value is being stolen from them?
Maybe corporations should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Pay what people feel they are worth, or go out of business.
Isnt that what everyone here wants, the power of the free market to weed out inefficient businesses?
Its literally a 70 cent rise. Thats barely inflation matching.
Cry more, capitalists.
Labor can't compete back! That's not fair!!
This isn’t the free market when it’s mandated by law. The wages in a free market would be determined by supply and demand without government collusion
We don't live in a free market when business cartels can fix wages.
This is labor competing back with the same methods that capital uses.
Cry harder.
Isn’t about labor at all. It’s about the government setting wages.
Lots of people lost their jobs or hours. It’s weird you like to see them suffer by incompetent government action.
Do you think labor is the only one lobbying the government regarding wages?
Wake up.
Do you always talk in circles ? My statement is accurate. It isn’t free market when the government is mandating.
Unions are free market.
Now why you want the workers to cry harder is a weird response. Lots of people lost their jobs over this and you celebrate. Typical liberal.
Unions are aggressively suppressed by employers both via illegal tactics and lobbying the state for anti union laws.
I am sure you know these facts... By we don't see you crying over it unlike peasant win wage lol
In context of what I said, this makes zero sense.
Because your created narrow context for your argument that doesn't make much logical sense when you look at how system operates as a whole.
Picking good places for conservative arguements while ignoring big picture is a bad faith actor behavior.
I replied to a comment. You replied to who knows what as it had nothing to do with what I said. Maybe you should try responding to what the person said
BTW collusion requires two parties... Who is the government "collude" with more in the US
Asking for a friend.
Just because you don't understand something or refuse to do so, doesn't make it "who knows what"
I understand things well.
Please explain how your comment had anything to do with what I said. It doesn’t. Act in good faith.
Act in good faith? Ppfffft HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha
"Good faith" at work
Do you always ignore what is inconvenient to you?
We don't live in a free market. It's a conservative fantasy. Grow up sometime.
When you start bitching about corporations lobbying the government to keep wages down maybe I'll take you seriously.
I never made the claim that we lived in a free market. Do you always make things up?
I responded to the statement that this was a free market and pointed out that we are not a free market .
Somebody's reading comprehension needs some work. You should quit as a mod.
It’s mandated by law because the corporations are too large to care to do it themselves and have to be told.
They’re just worried about making more money this quarter than last quarter. Under that reality, a law becomes necessary. Corporations have clearly shown they won’t pay their workers a decent wage when they don’t have to.
@breadsmasher @Amoxtli Aww are the widdle socialists mad that the policies they advocated for got them fired?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2024/03/26/california-minimum-wage-jobs/73107149007/
Yet for some reason they're hitting the "I'll do it again" button 😂
If these are the people voting in #California, it explains the state that it's in.
You’re advocating poverty wages, and “shut up you get what you’re given”?
@breadsmasher Nope! I'm advocating for policies that would lower the production costs of the goods that are being served, as well as inflation and regulatory costs and fees like taxes, providing greater margins and stability for businesses, incentivizing them to voluntarily raise employee wages.
So “hahha ask for more get fired” is your way of saying “production costs should be lowered”.
I don’t believe you have a good grasp on reality. Good day.
@breadsmasher No, it's not. It's my way of making fun of you guys for complaining about something happening that's due to a policy you support, and then advocating for doing that again. This is downright hilarious, and worth laughing at!
Everyone laughs at the fool who hits himself in the head with a hammer, says "ow that hurts", and does it again. Y'all are doing the exact same thing here.
Increasing minimum wages reduces the value of everyone else's money. Companies never take a hit from these increases. They always pass on the cost into the product or they shut down locations.
Every time government increases the minimum wage, the poverty line goes up as well. It's turns into a never ending inflationary cycle.
You can't just increase the minimum payment, because at the end of the day, the money has to equal some type of value. When the government forces a value, it reduces the value of everyone else's money.
@djsumdog @breadsmasher @realcaseyrollins Agreeed!
The other major factor on inflation, WAR SPENDING!
Inflation is Government created.
Dude is linking corpo propaganda as a flex🤡
@sunzu @Amoxtli @breadsmasher So you're telling me that #USAToday is wrong, and fast food workers in #California actually didn't lose any jobs after the #MinimumWage was increased?
You dropped this king: 🤡
Rheee
@sunzu @Amoxtli @breadsmasher Yeah that's what I thought 😂
I know spend day and night thinking about all of the unemployed fast workers... Ita in your DNA dear.
You are a nice guy
@sunzu @Amoxtli @breadsmasher Your rebuttal to "your policies led to people getting fired" is "I think about fast food workers a lot"?
Go off king 😂
People get "fired" all the time... I don't see you crying any other time lol
This one just hurts a lil for some reason.
Do you own a shiti fast food joint?
Did this hurt u?
@sunzu @Amoxtli @breadsmasher So...your argument is that this is a mere coincidence? That there's no connection between the increase of the minimum rage and the firing of the fast food workers?
My argument is that you are a bad faith actor.
Just like the clown above. Picking narrow talking points and ignoring how the regime works.
Nobody is buying this shit. Go back to you handlers at PragerU and tell them to give you a better scrypt.
These boomer takes are pathetic in age of internet.
Jfc
@sunzu @Amoxtli @breadsmasher Haha...you know it's bad when you don't even have the balls to refute any of my points and go straight to "you're a bad faith actor" 😂 You would think that there would be at least some left wing argument about how the minimum wage have affected employment in #Califronia, at least calling companies greedy or something, but nope! You're too lazy for even that.
Are #Lemmy and #Kbin leftists really this sorry? The discourse on here has been way worse than usual.
Fediverse crowd has gotten pretty good not to engage low quality slop.
Y'all come, y'all go depending on what issue is being shilled that day or week.
It is easier to notice here lol
Entire headline was just a rage bait haha
Youre either a scab, a paid actor, or foolish
@breadsmasher 🤣 Well, at least you came at me with an actual argument in your other response.
This was the wrong time to push higher wages. Small business are having financial problems. Many people don’t get most McDonald’s or other fast good places are small businesses.
With inflation and everything else, they just can’t afford to take the hit. That’s why many closed or laid people off.
Bakeries were excluded because of the buddies of the governor.
It would make more sense to have a fast food union over the government screwing everyone over.