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submitted 1 year ago by Grayox@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

She also made $29,000,000 in 2022 for herself, cause she worked so hard and made so many cars herself. Ha

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[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 158 points 1 year ago

Keep these CEO memes coming. These assholes need to have a spotlight shown on them. A company is not a person, a company is ran by people.

[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago

They're laughing all the way to the bank. The have not one care for what you or I think of them

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

They do if we threaten their pockets or their lives.

Historically, which one is targeted is their choice.

[-] Hiuhokiguess@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard eating them works too.

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[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Only one has ever really gotten their attention. They can always make more money.

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

Should name the companies as well.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

And the share holders

[-] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Just replace ceos with AI lol

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Seriously, a lot of CEOs and most managers could be much more easily replaced by AI than the workers. Run some analysis on some metrics lay off people based on that. Go over the market analytics, direct staff to work on derivative versions of the products that have good numbers, cancel products that don't. I'm not even sure if you really need AI for this, a very basic script could handle a lot of it.

Of course a program would be lacking in the common sense to say "Nobody is going to drop a week's pay so they can go into a virtual world where they're a poorly drawn legless cartoon character". But present day CEOs make these mistakes anyway. It wouldn't be good, but it wouldn't be worse than the status quo.

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 154 points 1 year ago

Stock buybacks need to be made illegal again. I don’t understand how it’s anything other than market manipulation.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 116 points 1 year ago

Ronald Regan really fucked this nation over. . .

[-] StickyLavander@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’s was the first paid actor, just a puppet so the people in control can remain unknown. Skull and bones secret society was/is a real thing.

[-] iBaz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

It’s not a secret, we know who the billionaires are that are funding this madness, but the only people that could put a stop to it, are the ones benefiting from them.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

So we'll have to eat them for real.

The announcement of the first TRILLIONAIRE should cause a worldwide civil war.

[-] Hoomod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Nixon never should have been pardoned

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Shareholder primacy was from the Henry Ford days.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

It makes sense if they're pulling out of the stock market entirely, in that case it's just settling the books. Any other reason is to manipulate the price. The whole stock market is a house of cards controlled directly by a few self-titled elites though, so chicanery is literally built in and always was.

[-] JasSmith@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I agree. I could live with it if it were merely a way to defer taxes, but the U.S. has something called the stepped-up basis. This allows people to inherit stocks without paying tax on the capital gains. The wealthy can live their whole lives without paying any tax. Both stock buy-backs and the stepped-up basis severely undermine the stock market and tax system.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

The real parasites in society.

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[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's very obviously is. Stock buybacks aren't allowed almost anywhere else in the world for a reason. It just leads to terrible behavior. This coupled with insanely low effective corporate tax rates means companies horde capital and do buybacks instead of doing other activities that are more economically beneficial to the country. Like increasing worker pay...

[-] Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev 10 points 1 year ago

If I'm being honest, I don't understand this angle. Why are stock buybacks immoral or wrong? Isn't it simply using extra cash in a company to buy back stock from shareholders? With the same demand and reduced total stock, of course the price is going to go up. But the total market capitalization remains the same. I don't understand why this is somehow wrong. Can someone help me out?

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Because executive pay is largely given in shares, so it incentivizes the leadership to invest funds in buy backs to inflate the price of the very shares they own instead of investing that money into employee pay or other company centric initiatives.

[-] JasSmith@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

The other reply is correct regarding the macro effects of the practise. The more immediate issue is that it allows shareholders to avoid paying dividend taxes. So they can effectively defer paying taxes until they realise any capital gains. This is a huge benefit, as the present value of money is worth much more than the future value of money. However there is an even larger benefit in the U.S. Dependents can inherit stocks at the current price and avoid paying any capital gains tax. This is called the “stepped-up basis.” It’s an insane tax loophole. Together stock buy-backs and the stepped-up basis allow the ultra wealthy to pay little to no tax, ever. They take out perpetual loans to pay for living expenses, guaranteed against their holdings.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I agree. They need to do a reverse split if they want to change the shares in circulation.

The idea was a company could show faith by buying their own stock. Now ceo pay is tied to factors associated with the stock that can be manipulated by buying it back.

The IBM bro Ginny made millions while the company shrunk by manipulating the stock.

I don’t care what a ceo makes. I do care what they do. If they’re only focusing on themselves, I care.

[-] _cnt0@feddit.de 76 points 1 year ago

A tale as old as mankind. Like 20 years ago I saw a movie. Some indie thing from France or Spain. The kind of shit that gets highly acclaimed at the Cannes film festival. In one scene there was a bricklayer reciting a poem (from the top of my head and loosely translated from German):

My grandfather was a bricklayer. My father was a bricklayer. I am a bricklayer, too. But, tell me, where is my house?

That allways stuck with me.

[-] Hoomod@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You load 16 tons, what do you get?

Another day older and deeper in debt

St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go

I owe my soul to the company store

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The devil put the coal in the ground

Devil put the coal in the ground

He buried it deep so it'd never be found

Devil put the coal in the ground

[-] _cnt0@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

I did some brain jogging and I think in German it went like this:

Mein Vater war ein Maurer. Sein Vater war ein Maurer. Auch ich mauere Tag ein Tag aus. Doch sag mir, wo steht mein Haus?

Which would translate to

My father was a bricklayer. His father was a bricklayer. I, too, wall up day in and day out. But tell me, where is my house?

But I can't figure out what the movie was.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 61 points 1 year ago

Stock buy backs used to be illegal in the USA. It was seen as a form of corruption.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

It's blatant stock manipulation. The stock price goes up because they increase demand for the stock for no reason. The value of the company doesn't change at all other than they're holding stock as an asset instead of the cash. Yet the stock is worth more now. It's stock manipulation, plain and simple.

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[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

so-true: "It's not corruption if you legalize it!"

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When organized labor is weak and non-militant, capital can get away with a lot more, so it does get away with a lot more.

It strips away anti-corruption, regulations, and social democracy as soon as it can get away with it.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

They could've paid for all of the UAW's asks and then some with just that but it's less about the money and more about trying to look strong. The reality is they are nothing without their workers, no company is.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago

Just like how the losses the entertainment industry has suffered due to the writers and actors strike could have paid for their demands 10 times over. This is 100% about stripping the power from workers and keeping the power in the C suite.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the companies were expecting a recession to strengthen their hand. Turns out, we don't need them.

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[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How cool would sleeper cells of anti-capitalist assistants, cooks, personal trainers, etc be lol. These people should be living like Putin afraid everyone is planning to take them out. Take the joy from their lives if that's all you can take.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

You dont talk about Fight Club.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

Very cool. Very very cool.

[-] instamat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Put laws on the books and hold people accountable. That’s what laws are supposed to do.

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[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm loving all these billionaire memes, call them tf out

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If stock buybacks are Capital's path of least resistance it will self organize, like iron shavings to a neodymium magnet, and make it happen. There is no human agency in the circuits of capitalism and never will be.

If this woman tried to not do stock buybacks, she would be fired by her peers/board and replaced.

If this woman was even capable of considering doing pay raises instead of stock buybacks, she would have been clocked and removed from the circuit like an intelligent species crashing into the fermi paradox/great filter.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

"But if you shared that money among all workers, they'd only get an extra 50 cents per hour!!!!" - some tool defending corporate profit

[-] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

$3.4B / 167000 workers / 2000 hours = $10.18/hr raise, which is quite substantial.

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[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They’re all plotting something.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

They just want to maintain their status quo, humanity be damned.

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