Average Hours Worked Per Job in Europe : dataisbeautiful

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Including both full- and part time work in the same statistic is always iffy IMO, especially if you restrict it to the main job (i.e. people who work several part time jobs might work more overall than full time workers with one job).

On top of that, these numbers should always be taken with a grain of salt due to undocumented overtime.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 14 points 3 months ago

undocumented overtime

This speaks to me in American.

[-] PatrickYaa@lemmy.one 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nah, undocumented overtime is a thing in germany, too, for example. Most jobs, especially in smaller businesses have what's called "Vertrauensarbeitszeit"(trust based timekeeping). You don't punch in anywhere, you just show up at the job, and are expected to manage your own time. Studies found that this leads to people working approx. 41-42h/week instead of the contractually agreed-upon 40h/week, with the difference not being paid, since it is undocumented. The EU/ECJ declared this to be a problem and now all businesses have to implement some form of electronic timekeeping.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It means though that companies can definitely work very well with low hours count.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I just love the disrespect against UK.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not disrepect, they just don't cooperate with EU-based statistics organisations.

[-] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

I think the UK will soon be the most powerful country, followed by a more united America and Europe.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

Why is turkey considered european?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago

And why are Moldova and Belarus not?

(I'll forgive the lack of inclusion of the two countries directly at war. Though they should have at least been mentioned alongside the UK and North Macedonia as data not available.)

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Part of it is in Europe I guess?

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also technically Turkey is an EU candidate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Though they kinda stopped being a real candidate 10+ years ago.

But 20 years ago, Turkey was the most prominent EU candidate and could eventually legitimately join the EU. Greece was one of the biggest proponents of Turkey joining the EU. Turkey was led by a promising young man, a moderate muslim, who could compromise islam with secularism. His name was Erdogan.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago

This seems a rather generous characterisation. He might have been more sensible in his economics earlier on, but he has always been a hardcore Islamist. Before he got into national politics was imprisoned during his term as Istanbul's Mayor for "inciting racial hatred", and his party deregistered for being too extreme in its opposition to secularism.

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yes but before Erdogan, the military was in charge of Turkey. So saying that the military favoured government didnt approve Erdogan was not proof that Erdogan was an actual radical, maybe it was just internal turkish politics. At least that's how it was perceived by the outsiders.

Turkey had nominally a democracy but if the military didnt approve the elected government, they would just coup it. But since being an actual democracy, with the government in charge of the military, is a requirement for joining the EU, Turkey was forced to become more democratic. Unfortunately the people of Turkey wanted a more islamic and less secular government, so thats what they elected.

Which in turn weakened the military's influence, increased Erdogan's power(since he was the elected leader) and led to the failed coup a decade later. The failed coup changed everything.

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

There appears to be an inverse relationship between the working week and distance from the Netherlands. Probably average height and love of cycling, too.

[-] BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Well... For the countries I know if it's completely wrong.

Mixing part time and full time duration makes NO sense whatsoever.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile in Freedumb land my boss takes the mandatory lunch break (unpaid) and slaps an extra 45 minutes on the "8 hour day" so he doesn't lose any productivity, but we're essentially here for 9 hours not 8... Since it's unpaid and we aren't clocked in by law we do "40" so no overtime but it's really more like 45...

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's not only in the US. In Spain, my company mandates a minimum of 30 minutes of unpaid break. This is so they can avoid giving you the 15minutes paid break mandated by law (how does it make sense? I don't know). On. 40 hour work week.

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Got a department of labor in your state?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I do, but not only are most of the laws vague they are also made with these loopholes as a feature not a bug. We get a lunch break and that's all the law cares about. Most companies do this unless you're considered a real human and have a real human job like white collar work. I work in a factory so I'm as human as the scrap metal we toss away daily.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Thanks for sharing!

[-] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 3 months ago

No problem, I should also look up how Canada compares 👀

[-] Hector@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Around 37 hours per week as listed here

[-] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 3 months ago

Canada can into Eastern Europe.

We need to stop copying America’s homework as Denmark is the most developed country in North America.

[-] Hector@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

We're slowly progressing. The days of copying the USA's homework are behind us. We're somewhere in the middle now.

[-] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately polarized politicians like Pierre Poilievre is surging in the polls and thanks to first-past-the-post he could win a majority.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

“Eurostat (2023)” is not a source.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Why not? https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=473885

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

If you read “Eurostat (2023)”, can you identify the author(s)? Can you tell where (if at all) this was published? Do you know the title of the publication? No. You have to search for all of these things (as you did – thank you) given only two keywords. And if you find something, you can’t be sure if what you found really is the source of this image, or if it’s another edition or if it’s just a different publication which also doesn’t properly cite its own sources.

[-] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It is a source. The question is if it's a credible source. I mean, my next door neighbor can be a source.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

If you read “Eurostat (2023)”, can you identify the author(s)? Can you tell where (if at all) this was published? Do you know the title of the publication? No. You have to search for all of these things given only two keywords. And if you find something, you can’t be sure if what you found really is the source of this image, or if it’s another edition or if it’s just a different publication which also doesn’t properly cite its own sources.

[-] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 3 months ago

Too bad Montenegro isn’t on here

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 months ago

This does not take into account essential summer holidays, where businesses are just closed. Makes some countries average much lower than others shown here.

[-] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Did you use something similar to Octave to encode this map of quantum harmonies?

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Iceland looks wacky on that chart

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