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Shivambu quits EFF for MK, Malema likens ‘pain’ to mother’s death (www.dailymaverick.co.za)
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"The EFF has been dealt yet another blow with its deputy president and founding member, Floyd Shivambu, resigning from the party. He will be joining former president Jacob Zuma’s uMkhonto Wesizwe party but did not reveal which position he will be occupying."

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[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well he clearly jumped ship as soon as the other party got popular. But he would always have been seen as Malema's deputy, always as his shadow.

I wonder if the EFF might merge with MK in the future, since they both come from identical backgrounds, being expelled ANC leaders forming new parties, drinking from the same Marxist ideological pond, both parties leaders, including Shivambu, stealing money from the poor through fraud and corruption. It's like they were made for each other, if only Malema can overcome the fact that Zuma was the one that started the process of kicking out Malema from the ANC.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

drinking from the same Marxist ideological pond

What planet do you live on?

[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh please enlighten me what MK's official ideological background is

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Since when does Zulu nationalism mix with radical politics, Clyde?

Do you remember who provided the muscle for all those SAP-trained death squads the Nats had running around this country in the lead-up to the '94 election, perhaps?

[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Who the hell is Clyde? Yes I agree MK is a Zulu nationalism party mainly, but apart from their chatgpt inspired manifesto I am assuming the MK is basically a breakaway from the ANC, basically Zuma's ANC, just like EFF is another breakaway party from the ANC, Malema's ANC. Zuma and Malema were, before Malema's expulsion, buddy buddy. Basically both were yelling Marxist rhetoric about seizing the land and mines for economic liberation for the masses. Both Malema and Zuma have documented corruption, Zuma with the arms deal, Guptas, Venda Bank (Zuma's list is insanely large), Malema with the on point engineering and also Venda Bank. Both come from the same political school apart from Malema is Pedi and Zuma is Zulu, basically the same caliper and vying for the same vote, look how the MK ate into the ANC and especially the EFF vote. The smart thing for the EFF to do is join the MK since what they want is basically the same thing

[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Also I was like 1 year old in the first 1994 election, so I do not remember the death squads or Nats, I will be honest, I remember and know nothing of it, have heard-ish about it but being here in Limpopo I have been far away from any real Zulu influence

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Marxist rhetoric about seizing the land and mines for economic liberation for the masses

That's not Marxism, Clyde - that's just nationalisation. You know, that thing capitalist countries are constantly doing?

Both Malema and Zuma have documented corruption

Very Marxist, eh?

Zuma with the arms deal

Oh so Marxist, buying arms from capitalist conglomerates.

Guptas

Yes, that's on page 4 of Das Kapital, "Though shallt fraternise with capitalists everywhere."

For crying out loud... just admit that you don't have a clue what it is you are talking about. The Klippies-and-Coke brigade has misinformed you, okay? That's not your fault... but nobody can fix this state of affairs for you.

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