People constantly complaining about the Media Bias Fact Check bot are more annoying than the bot : unpopularopinion

[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

I'm always amused at the downvotes it collects. People hammering a button to acknowledge their dislike of something they are choosing to not block.

My only problem with these bots is that I don't want them counted toward comments - I hate going in to find the only comments are bots.

[-] CM400@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

My only problem with these bots is that I don't want them counted toward comments - I hate going in to find the only comments are bots.

Agreed.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised we haven't seen an alternative news community on another instance than Lemmyworld and lemmy.ml emerge as an alternative without such bot.

Seems like the LW mods/admins don't want to change their opinion on the bot, so the expected reaction would be to see people leave those communities for others.

[-] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

People just like complaining. They honestly just have too much free time

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Just remembered there is !globalnews@lemmy.zip

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds reasonable

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

The irony of a comment reviewing the bias of some article is that someone else will always claim that the review is also biased. It's inevitable and unavoidable.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

You can avoid that by at least being internally consistent though.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

No, I don't think you can.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So you’re smart enough to realize it’s “blatantly biased” but others aren’t so we need to get rid of it?

It’s kind of like Lemmy users don’t understand that this is a decentralized platform where you can connect to it and do whatever you want. The whole point is for it to not be regulated by any one entity.

The way you can “take it down” is by building a better instance (or sponsoring someone else to), maintain/manage it, etc. It’s strange to me that you expect your instance operator and/or the platform at large to implement blocking a specific bot just for you, especially when your account is basically on the default “how to use Lemmy” instance.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So we shouldn't fight misinformation? We should just cede that space to whoever shows up with a bot?

No thank you.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 2 months ago

So I’m no expert on the bot but it seems like the hard right crowd are the ones crying about it being misinformation.

You’re on a federated, P2P (as far as instances go) platform not expecting to find misinformation from a bot; meanwhile you got all sorts of “user” accounts posting fake propaganda every other post and real humans with equally problematic opinions but for some reason the bot that might be inaccurate (maybe because it’s a BOT) seems to be the breaking point.

I’ve said my piece, I’m not really so interested in this topic to keep drilling down endlessly. The whole thing is fucking stupid.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

it seems like the hard right crowd are the ones crying about it being misinformation.

Hahahahaha no.

And I call out those posters when I see it too.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Just block it.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 months ago

I did but that doesnt remove the comment counter for the bots comment from the post feed. So i think there is something to engage with but nope, just the shitty bot that serves no actual purpose to begin with. Nobody double checks and audits the bot so its completely worthless.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 2 months ago

I have never ever even seen that bot.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 5 points 2 months ago

It’s in the news communities on Lemmy.world

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz -1 points 2 months ago

I don't use the comms where this bot pops up (for unrelated reasons) so I'll comment the following as an external observer.

May I be honest? I think that both sides are being muppets.

People defending that bot are mostly saying two things:

"jus hide all botz in u're profile lol lmao" - asking people to throw the baby out with the dirty bathtub water, given that plenty other bots are desirable;
"if u dun liek it than ~~fuck off~~ block it lmao haha" - extremely short-sighted, as annoyances don't happen only once, and if people need to block bots to make Lemmy usable they'll simply leave.

You are not solving the problem, you're just knee-jerk reacting to the other side's whining. I don't need more than a quick glance at the bot's profile to know that the bot is bloody hated by the users. This shite should be fixed or ditched, because as it stands it is not doing what a bot is supposed to do, to provide desirable functionality to the users.

People complaining about that bot: the group above might be knee-jerk reacting to your whining, but you're still regardless whining, like a herd of redditors and unlike decent people. If it's clear that your complains are falling into deaf ears, pack up your things and leave, nurture competing communities without that bloody bot.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I like the bot but never upvote it because it's a bot...

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I think that this goes for both sides - there should be plenty people like you, who like it and don't upvote it, as well as plenty more people who dislike it but aren't downvoting it.

(I typically vote on bot content because it's useful as feedback for the maintainer, as well as helping with post/comment sorting.)

[+] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org -22 points 2 months ago

You are the same type of person who still thinks Helldivers 2 is fun

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

TF kind of argument is that lmao

How does that matter at all to anyone but yourself

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

. . I still like it . .

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org -4 points 2 months ago

I’m not a gamer, I’d rather build something.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

Then you're missing out.

You can do both. Sometimes at the same time!

And most likely without some kind of smug sense of superiority over helldivers 2 players of all things like the other guy.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 2 months ago

Sorry if my shortened comment felt smug to you. I originally starting explaining that while gaming I oftentimes get frustrated and want to reprogram the game rather than play it, but I was distracted so I shortened it quickly. No offense intended.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Well shit, and i was so committed to the downvote i left on your last comment. Gotta go fix that, i guess...

...hope you're happy.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

Oh no, I meant the other guy saying "you're one of those people who enjoys helldivers 2" in a way that's clear he's trying to say it sucks and he's better than that.

You didn't come off as smug.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 2 months ago

Well my comprehension skills are all over the place today, haha

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

No worries, text doesn't convey tone well and I could see how my comment might seem like I was calling YOU smug for not taking interest in something.

Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

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