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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 1 year ago

There must be a 5% margin of error

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago

You laugh now but you'll be crying when they build cryptoland and my blockchain hills nft goes to the moon!

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The only way I'd believe a 5% margin of error would be if the report said 105% of NFTs are worthless.

[-] sapo@beehaw.org 105 points 1 year ago
[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 57 points 1 year ago

i can only presume the remaining 5% is owned by NFTs Georg, who lives on the blockchain and is an outlier who should not have been counted

[-] radix@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I was gonna say! Can't forget about NFTs Georg!

[-] addie@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Hey, just because 95% of them are worthless, doesn't mean the other 5% aren't too.

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe those NFTs have negative value.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

All NFTs have negative value because they aren't worth anything but they cost money to pretend to store.

Basically NFTs are the world's least efficient, least secure, but most expensive backup solution.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's a lowball estimate.

[-] Arotrios@kbin.social 81 points 1 year ago

The news here is that, contrary to popular belief, 5% of NFTs actually still hold some value.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real question would be: how many of those 5% can be sold for more than the initial asking price.

...but NFTs were never for the buyers, they were for the creators: even if they fall to 1/1000000th the initial value, a 2.5% cut on every sale is still more than 0.

[-] festus@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

If the values fall low enough relative to transaction fees then there won't be any transactions at all for creators to collect royalties. Also values can drop to literally $0 if it isn't even worth a buyer or sellers time to deal with the NFT (i.e. seller can't find buyer at any price or doesn't bother trying).

[-] silentdon@beehaw.org 51 points 1 year ago

The other 5% are less than worthless

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 35 points 1 year ago
[-] FatTony@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago

probably a 5% error margin.

[-] lupec@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

For those of us with even an inkling of common sense it might as well be lol

[-] Sharmat@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

With some more time, the other 5% will follow suit.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

Shocked it’s not 100%

[-] cerevant@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Along with the rest of crypto, but don’t tell them…

[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

No, you can't paint that broad of a stroke. It's true that crypto INVESTING might be no better gambling, but crypto wasn't invented to be an investment tool, it was invented to be a financial transaction tool, and in that regard it has some real utility.

[-] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

But that's not how most people use it anymore. It's become almost entirely a speculation market. Plus, transaction times for payments on Bitcoin e.g. make it totally infeasible for use in any retail application.

It's just a bunch of people passing Monopoly money around to each other at this point, trying to pretend they're making bank.

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago

No, they made it to be an investment tool from the start. They wanted it to be a new gold standard, where the limited resource increases in value over time. Completely ignoring history on why that is a bad idea. It's was created to be the ultimate, "I got mine, so fuck you!"

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[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

it was invented to be a financial transaction tool

Which it failed at

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Negative utility is still utility, right?

[-] Pinklink@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

As with everything else, it only holds the value we assign to it

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You may not mean it this way, so no offense intended either way, but...

Crypto bros love to say "Oh, the value of any currency is arbitrary, it's all just based on people believing that it's worth something!"

But you know why I prefer transacting in USD? Cuz on a yearly basis, the government comes asking for a certain amount from me, and they'll only take USD. And if they don't get it, they'll do all sorts of bad things to me.

So while I may think gold or Dogecoin or limited edition Beanie Babies are a superior medium of exchange, I still have an unavoidable need to acquire USD. It's not my belief in USD that gives it value -- it's the guy with the sword.

Ironically, there is a similar way in which crypto has value. Cuz ransomware attacks tend to demand payment in crypto.

So they did actually make a legitimate currency, but the value doesn't come from belief. It comes from blackmail.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

So they did actually make a legitimate currency, but the value doesn’t come from belief. It comes from blackmail.

Kinda sorta, but not really. Cryptocurrency's real value comes from people willing to trade it in exchange for real items. Unfortunately these items tended to be drugs in the beginning. Once someone was able to buy that first pizza with Bitcoin is when it became legitimized. As long as people are willing to exchange it for real items, it's a legitimate currency.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Once someone was able to buy that first pizza with Bitcoin is when it became legitimized. As long as people are willing to exchange it for real items, it’s a legitimate currency.

He paid someone else in Bitcoin, but that person bought the pizza in USD. Even today, no major business is accepting direct crypto payments for anything besides publicity stunts. There are, however, plenty of services which automate what happened in the "crypto pizza" case: they'll convert it to USD for you so that you can say the transaction was kinda sorta done via crypto.

[-] Pinklink@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah you right, I didn’t mean it in that way. Actually I completely agree with you, except with the caveat that USD does work the exact same way, but the value assigned to it is agreed upon by wayyyyyyy more people, and backed by the government (but again that’s just a group of people with a lot of power). But all currencies work that way, hence exchange rates.

We can only exchange little green papers for actual goods because everybody agrees it’s worth something, hence why they can turn around and exchange it for whatever they want. Crypto doesn’t have the same history or consistency, and in a slightly hilarious way it looks like it never will, opposed to what many people thought. Yeah, I don’t understand people that are intensely dogmatic about things, like change your beliefs with emerging evidence yes? Crypto bros: it’s still the future bro! It’ll happen!

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[-] FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

BREAKING NEWS Report “95% of water : wet”

[-] strawberry@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago

shit that would be breaking news if only 95% of it was wet lol

[-] Jummit@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I guess really cold water isn't really "wet" per-se. What did I just write...

[-] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The truth! Water is not wet, it is a liquid that imparts the property of "wet" to other objects

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

This means that 79% of all NFT collections – otherwise known as almost 4 out of every 5 – have remained unsold

Anyone taking bets on how much of the remaining 21% were "sold" on paper only ie. wash traded? None of these statistics were ever reliable. Hundreds of thousands of NFT collections minted, almost all of them fishing for a single sucker to bite and make it worth the gas costs. It would probably be more useful to look only at collections officially associated with some already well-known brand/artist/celebrity.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

It would probably be more useful to look only at collections officially associated with some already well-known brand/artist/celebrity.

The Trump NFTs sold 100%... not sure how useful is that.

[-] Okkai@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

I honestly love that statistic. It's like a venn diagram of Trump screwing people over, people dumb enough to buy NFTs, and Trump supporters. It looks like this 🔴

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

To the surprise of absolutely no one with more than three brain cells to rub together.

[-] CrazyEddie041@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I'm extremely surprised that the number is only 95%.

[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

Always have been 🌎👨‍🚀🔫

[-] Aldehyde@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

5% margin of error

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago
[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Who knew that implementing scarcity where there isn't any wouldn't work?

[-] fer0n@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

TL;DR: A recent report reveals that the NFT market has collapsed, with 95% of NFTs being practically worthless. The hype around NFTs peaked in 2021, but since then, interest has waned, leaving many artists and investors in a tough spot. While not all NFTs are scams, the majority have lost their value, and the environmental impact of crypto remains a concern.

[-] Zellith@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Hey. I have an NFT of a bridge I'd like to sell you. Anyone interested?

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Send me a screenshot first.

[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

You wouldn’t download a bridge would you?

[-] sculd@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
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