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[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is stupid. There is just as much evidence it came from Fort Detrick.

For the record I don't think it came from either.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 41 points 1 year ago

I don't know why anyone is still talking about a lab outbreak in Wuhan because of the wet market nearby being suspected in mid December, when we know for sure that Covid was in Italy in September/October and possibly as early as May. The world just shrugged at this info because faecal treatment samples aren't as interesting as as bat soup and bioterrorism.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Racism mostly. Easier to just be racist against the Chinese than to admit COVID is the result of something more nuanced and systemic

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Nobody has a problem with Chinese people.

But the CCP needs to be given the Beria treatment.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

“We don’t hate the Chinese just the government that they like and has made their people prosperous.”

Check what happened to the Russians after the Soviet Union fell and tell me it’s not hate to wish that on the Chinese next.

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

And by every major polling organizations metrics the Chinese people overwhelmingly approve of the CPC.

Typical westoid wants to destroy a government that is liked by it's people. What's your countries government approval rating? Do you want to overthrow your government too?

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah man definitely no racism here

Any sources on the virus being discovered in Italy before China? That would change the entire discussion.

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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

That’s the thing, the COVID conspiracy people now posting this shirt saying, “SEE!?! IT WAS LAB LEAK!!” as if that justifies every single other insane thing they’ve ever said about COVID. Because there’s a huge difference between “covid CAME FROM a lab” and “lab leak possible origin.” One implies conspiracy, the other implies carelessness. What’s the old saying? ‘Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to greed?’ I very much think the same applies to stupidity—and honestly, in this case, greed probably caused the stupidity. How much funding-slashing has led to calamity in recent times? Plenty.

[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation. The issue is not so much about how/when it was leaked, but more along the lines of how poorly they handled the whole situation and subsequent coverup. For all we know, it could have been leaked by accident way earlier.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation

I personally don't think it came from Detrick, but I don't fault you for thinking so

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't really have any issues with accepting a lab leak possibility, but the lab leak people generally add a whole bunch of other conspiracies on top of that (it was designed as a bioweapon, leaked intentionally, etc), and nobody can really explain why this would be any good as a bioweapon if it hurts you as much as your enemies, and if you release it without having a vaccine for it.

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[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly The issue is how China handled all of this. America has had leaks before as have other countries. China has several well known leaks.

China is still trying to hide the origins which to me heavily suggest a lab leak.

[-] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hexbear users coming to defend China before even reading the post title:

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

They're coming in with their alts now. If you check some of the profiles on here, look how often China is mentioned and tell me it's not just obviously Hexbear users with alts

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[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Sup guys. Just commenting here so you can avoid reading the most brainlet of a take below. Hope you all have a good day.

[-] btbt@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago
[-] hark@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Looks like lab leak theory is back on the menu boys!

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills!

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Damn even the nonpolitical homies are dunking on this one

[-] Farman@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

What if covid was a terrorist atack on china and iran by obama loyalists? With the aded benefit ithat it put them back in power.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, because it's not like there are any geopolitical reasons that might explain why the NIH would want to decouple from China.

Fact is, you can find infractions from any lab. It's just a question of whether you want to look.

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[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Did this thread get nuked? Says there should be 57 comments.

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