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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Too many bots on both sides.

Are there still people who expect a genuine conversation between humans on reddit?

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Is there a screenshot missing? I don't see anyone defending Churchill here

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They might have meant the "Genocide (definitely not guilty)" part?

[-] Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

actually it's the entire fucking thread www.archive.is/oyUO2

[-] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

I read the conversation and someone should put logic into the guy's head who claims that British industrialised India. As Manchester industrialised, the Indian sub continent was actively not allowed to reap any benefits of it and deliberately kept only as source of raw materials. The theory of Britain industrialised and hence, it's GDP skyrocketed carefully skips the fact that it controlled a significant part of the world by military might.

I also like how he rebukes by saying that you must have read Marxist historian. I would much rather believe a historian than a reddit user.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Because most people only know Winston for his actions in leading the British to defeat the Nazis, they don’t read his opinions on the Irish or brown people.

[-] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Churchill had a negative view of all kinds of people. He is quoted as saying I am in favor of using poisonous gases against uncivilised tribes or I do not admit ... for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia..

As for Bengal famine, when the then Viceroy of India asked Churchill about this, IIRC, he replied that if the famine was so bad, why wasn't Gandhi dead yet?

Many defend Churchill as a person of his time but that is contextually untrue. The Vice President of US, Wallace under Roosevelt found Churchill's views very condemning when the later started boasting about English superiority to him as well.

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

On the topic of Churchill and the Irish Revolt, where are you getting your information from?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -4 points 2 months ago

What's the context for this?

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I'm asking where they get their understanding of the historical events

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -5 points 2 months ago

What did the person say on these topics and how it is "off/wrong"

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I didn't say it was. I'm trying to get their perspective. Stop putting words in my mouth

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -4 points 2 months ago

Alright where are you getting your information from then?

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I asked OP, not you so I don't understand why you're randomly getting defensive. I'm not going to play your game

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 months ago

White normies hate these bad facts about their dear "nazi slayer" 🤡

He ordered bangalis straved in case war in Europe turned south, it was a "strategic" decision.

Sucks to suck being a colony

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