304
submitted 1 week ago by neme@lemm.ee to c/android@lemdro.id
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] jalapeno_popper561@lemmy.ml 127 points 1 week ago

No better time than now to degoogle your life.

[-] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 65 points 1 week ago

Well, the issue will be developers of other apps would force us to re-google since any build of the app would be useless unless installed from the play store...

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 66 points 1 week ago

MicroG devs are working on fakeing play integrity api since 2023: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/2050

it seems that play integrity continue to change internally day to day... He is waiting that google stabilize it. Then will be a pull request.

[-] doctortran@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Are they? Other comments in different PRs seem to indicate they have no intention of trying to subvert play integrity. Is there something more recent than this that indicates they're trying?

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, maybe "working on" was too generous, "aware of the issue and some preliminary work was already done" would have been more correct

Here is some recent discussion if it's feasible at all: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/pull/2077

[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

ReVanced patching will become more common

[-] doctortran@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For every single app where the developer tries this?

Yeah right. That's unsustainable.

They'll also just increase ways for the integrity to verify it hasn't been patched. This announcement already says they're checking the app's binary for tampering.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (27 replies)
[-] themachine@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago

Well that's an easy fix. I just won't use those apps.

So no banking apps for you? I agree that this is shit, but pretending we are not hit by this is not helping.

Also, I don't really use banking apps anyway because they already pull similar shit and I can get around it. For now.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago

With banking apps in particular this lock down is ultra-stupid.

Like, I have to use your super secure app, or I can just... visit your page in a web browser running on god-knows-what with whatever extensions in any computing environment or OS of my choosing? But not using Google Play is where they draw the line.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

Fortunately so far I haven't come across a bank here in the Netherlands that wouldn't work because my phone was rooted or because I'm running grapheneos. Hope it stays that way too.

load more comments (18 replies)
[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago

Not a single app on my phone was installed through Google Play, it's all Aurora. Guess if apps really do this i'll just have to stop using them, cause I'm not installing the play store.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

I wish i can degoogle my phone but its a few months old so no rom support and its a samsung :<

[-] jalapeno_popper561@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Step 1: Shizuku

Step 2: Canta

Step 3: aShell You

Step 4: SaverTuner

You WILL want to remove Samsung Device Care, which also controls battery usage, and just so happens to be one of Samsung's worst offenders when it comes to phoning home. SaverTuner is your foss replacement for it. After that, you can find a list of safe-to-remove apps for your particular device and start debloating. Be careful; some apps you'll need a replacement for before you remove the stock counterpart.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 11 points 1 week ago

this is the reason phone selection for me is based on what it supports.

but samsungs are ruled out anyway. their service centers desttoys your phone if you have asserted your ownership of it, their software is way too unnecessarily complicated (not the part you see, but the low level part that complicates the flashing process), and they are generally a garbage company.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] cleverusername@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago

What if I sideload purely to downgrade a bugged app? Just seems like yet another kick in the teeth by Google.

load more comments (33 replies)
[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 61 points 1 week ago

BOOOOO!

YOUR DECISIONS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

google, not op

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago

time to demand apps in other repositories. Bonus if it's f-droid compatible

[-] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 week ago

Aw shit, it says this is supposed to detect when an app's binary has been tampered with... That means it's probably gonna be used to block stuff like ReVanced. I hope they can find a way around this that doesn't require root.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago

Nah, revanced will just patch that out too!

[-] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess Revanced would eventually have a patch to skip this check. It can already spoof the client and such, why not this as well. I hope so

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

The whole tech world saw Microsoft Palladium as a nightmare scenario, but was quiet ten years later when Apple and Google did the same thing to our phones. That was a mistake.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 41 points 1 week ago

Can we also sue Google for the same shit as apple? Sideloading isn't enough.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

This is the individual app's fault and not Googles. It's like getting mad at Steam for allowing apps with DRM. Is feature is entirely optional and requires extra effort to implement.

Also didn't Google already get sued in the USA for Android not being open enough or something like that.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Google Play IS my "sideloading" app repository.

[-] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

How are those Linux phones coming along?

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] chottomatte@lemdro.id 14 points 1 week ago

Some paid apps actually prevents the user from using it if it's not paid from Google play

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Are you suggesting such an app can be purchased outside Google play but not used?

Having an app check a license server isn't exactly new. Google play is simply a third party license server.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2024
304 points (99.0% liked)

Android

17403 readers
396 users here now

The new home of /r/Android on Lemmy and the Fediverse!

Android news, reviews, tips, and discussions about rooting, tutorials, and apps.

🔗Universal Link: !android@lemdro.id


💡Content Philosophy:

Content which benefits the community (news, rumours, and discussions) is generally allowed and is valued over content which benefits only the individual (technical questions, help buying/selling, rants, self-promotion, etc.) which will be removed if it's in violation of the rules.


Support, technical, or app related questions belong in: !askandroid@lemdro.id

For fresh communities, lemmy apps, and instance updates: !lemdroid@lemdro.id

💬Matrix Chat

💬Telegram channels / chats

📰Our communities below


Rules

  1. Stay on topic: All posts should be related to the Android OS or ecosystem.

  2. No support questions, recommendation requests, rants, or bug reports: Posts must benefit the community rather than the individual. Please post to !askandroid@lemdro.id.

  3. Describe images/videos, no memes: Please include a text description when sharing images or videos. Post memes to !androidmemes@lemdro.id.

  4. No self-promotion spam: Active community members can post their apps if they answer any questions in the comments. Please do not post links to your own website, YouTube, blog content, or communities.

  5. No reposts or rehosted content: Share only the original source of an article, unless it's not available in English or requires logging in (like Twitter). Avoid reposting the same topic from other sources.

  6. No editorializing titles: You can add the author or website's name if helpful, but keep article titles unchanged.

  7. No piracy or unverified APKs: Do not share links or direct people to pirated content or unverified APKs, which may contain malicious code.

  8. No unauthorized polls, bots, or giveaways: Do not create polls, use bots, or organize giveaways without first contacting mods for approval.

  9. No offensive or low-effort content: Don't post offensive or unhelpful content. Keep it civil and friendly!

  10. No affiliate links: Posting affiliate links is not allowed.

Quick Links

Our Communities

Lemmy App List

Chat and More


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS