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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Remember that Dale also did not know what the confederate flag truly meant. He just thought it was a southern thing. And the minute someone told him how offensive it was to them, he went and immediately scraped it off his truck and apologized.

Dale wasn't no damn loser traitor.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

And nowadays, he'd be labeled woke and accosted by the right...

[-] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

🇺🇲🫡

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Most people back then didn't give the Confederate flag a second thought.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 92 points 1 month ago

That and it was prohibition so your moonshine operation was against the law.

[-] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 month ago

One of my favorite songs from Jim Croce, Rapid Roy the Stock Car Boy, has a whole verse on this!

Rapid Roy, that stock car boy, He's the best driver in the land He says that he learned to race a stock car By runnin' shine outta Alabam' Oh the demolition derby and the figure 8 Is easy money in the bank Compared to runnin' from the man In Oklahoma City With a 500 gallon tank

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

1800l of shine would weigh more than most cars, what on earth was he driving?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Couldn't tell you the exact make and model, but afair, prohibition was when American automakers first began making high performance cars, specifically because a lot of people needed something that was able to move a shitload of weight while still being faster than the cops.

The specific number in the song is probably just either artistic hyperbole for "a hell of a lot" or a number that fit the meter, though 😁

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I suspect hyperbole. Cool song though.

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[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 1 month ago

Actually it was bootlegging.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

The underlying point is the same. Bootleggers were providing what the people wanted and cops were in the way because ACAB. That's the core of it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I'll remind you that prohibition required a Constitutional amendment, the idea was very popular.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Popular amongst Protestant busybodies with more zeal than sense and outsized influence on politicians, sure, but not necessarily the population in general.

I'll in turn remind you that it became so unpopular that they passed a new amendment to get rid of it, the only time that ever happened.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

It was popular for a reason people don't understand now: women were getting the shit beaten out of them by their drunken husbands. So a huge number of people, especially women, thought prohibition would stop that. Unfortunately, it just created a whole new kind of violence without reducing the domestic violence.

But the cause was a lot more noble than people give it credit for.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A lot of people don't know that Abraham Lincoln was a big proponent of prohibition. It was seen by progressives as an important step to move society forward.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

women were getting the shit beaten out of them by their drunken husbands. So a huge number of people, especially women, thought prohibition would stop that

They thought wrong. Typical of conservatives to blame something external and simple for a societal problem rooted in toxic gender roles and family structures.

the cause was a lot more noble than people give it credit for.

Except for the fact that there's nothing noble about jumping to conclusions and trying to solve the only tangentially related problems of some by depriving everyone else of something that most of them enjoyed more or less responsibly.

a reason people don't understand now

On the contrary: we still understand that domestic violence is awful and we now also understand that alcohol doesn't in itself cause it.

[-] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

are you seriously blaming conservatives for something that the progressives of the time championed?

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Same difference.

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Yeah. And bootleggers run from the cops. Because fuck em

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Also because they'd prefer to stay alive and free.

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Actually, there was a big culture in rural areas to just fuck with cops for fun, and the best way to avoid being arrested is to be faster than the cops.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 53 points 1 month ago

Wasn't the whole stock car thing started by shinerunners?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Yes, which is the entire point of the meme.

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[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure stock cars started with Ford with their Model T.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago

Capitalism is why. There was a market for moonshine and high profit margins for the risk.

Money is usually the motivation

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

Seems a bit reductive. Everything boils down to money if you're content to look no higher up the hierarchy of needs.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Capitalism isn't market forces existing at all.

Capitalism is directing and manipulating those forces towards accumulation and endless growth, following an ethos of "more is more and more is inherently good"

I suspect that there would be a shitload more anticapitalist people in the world if everyone was aware that markets and capitalism aren't synonyms..

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago

Capitalism is not equal to smuggling or free markets. Capitalism means the private ownership of the means of production, and a market economy is possible under other systems.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Yee haw, fuck the law.

[-] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 33 points 1 month ago

Raise Hell, Praise Dale

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of Bikers with a rebel lifestyles being the ultimate bootlickers

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Wellll there's two types of bikers, there's those that want to seem like rebels, and there's meth dealers that will kill you. There's also people who ride motorcycles that aren't "bikers" too.

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[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

There's an antique boat style here called 'pirtuvene', literally grain alcohol boat. These boats smuggled millions of liters of pure alcohol through the gulf of Finland from Estonia. Smugglers were gunned down, coast guard were gunned down, people were drinking more booze than ever and boat builders were doing good business both with the smugglers and the cops.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

When people are digging to China, sell shovels

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

If they could only be a little quieter outside my house.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Why run though? You got a car, drive mofo!

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