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Python has to be another clown with their error messages
Most python error messages are pretty straightforward so I legitimately don't know what you're talking about
I was gonna say, next to C++ you better don't shame other languages for their errors. Otherwise I wish you some "fuck you: error in library used in library used in template of template:: some template object is not correct type of template obejct"-type bullshit.
Which part in particular? They were improved in 3.10 and 3.11
3.11 is Python for Workgroups, right? Feels like it came out ages ago....
they’re gonna be looking for army guys
"I dOnt lIkE tYpEsCrIpT. iT aDdS uNnEcCeSsArY cOmPlExItY."
Well I don't like the PTSD I have from trying to refactor your God awful native JavaScript codebase. It has enough magic strings to summon the Dark Lord himself.
"you don't need types, just use unit tests!"
Totally man. Let me just cast this date to a date so I can be sure its a date.
I write JS/TS daily and I agree with this lol.
I’ve offset it with Golang lately.
Ehhh, golang’s pretty down there for me too. Sure, you have types, but the way you “implement” an interface is the sussiest thing I’ve seen in most well-known programming languages. Not to mention all the foot guns (pointers for nullables is a common one, and oh, if you forgot that a function returns an error, and you called it for its effects, you’ve just built a possibly very silent bomb) you end up building into your programs. I use in prod, and I get scared.
I’m pretty new to it. The types and struct stuff are a bit hand-wavey, but I like how quickly I was able to ramp into it. I built a simple API with it in a few hours.
2 things I like about golang is just 1) the ease of getting someone to start work, and 2) goroutines. I have no complains about goroutines cause I’ve barely used it, and when I do it’s been fine. The first point though, I’d say the simplicity of the language is a double-edged sword — it’s easy to learn with little surface to cover, but it forces you to implement a lot of basic machinery you find in other languages by yourself, and so your codebase can get clunky to read really quickly, especially as your project grows.
Not trying to dissuade you from learning golang tho. I think it’s a good language to learn and use, especially for small simple programs, but it’s not the great language many try to say it is. It’s… fine. There are many reasons why it grinds my gears, but I’m still fine with using it and maintaining it for prod.
“Clunky” - this hit it on the head for me. When I was initially getting started, some of the setup and boilerplate felt awkward. It feels very barebones, which I can see the benefit if you’re not a fan of opinionated, but as a project grows, it seems like a dark corner that technical debt and spaghetti code would amass.
Go has the pitfalls you'd expect from an abused configuration language, not from a modern statically typed language.
Until today I thought being a typist just meant you could press keys quickly
lol is the web a joke to you? jk
PHP enters the chat
I still use PHP in like 1/8 client projects - it’s fast as shit now ^^ lolol
I’ve been a PHP developer for 20 years. I concur.
Serious question: what's the use case for using PHP in greenfield projects? Is the client dictating the use of PHP or your own choice?
I use PHP as a back end language for an API. The front end is Vue. It’s fast as fuck, runs anywhere, doesn’t need tons of dependencies, and just does what I want it to.
The environment is all on-premise, so that does limit our options… but I’d still pick PHP.
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This is some great content, but where would vbscript and .wsf files sit (do they even get to join the team?)
Well, who do you think they’re hiding from?
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