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[-] agrammatic@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I think this article totally (but only implicitly) ignores young men and boys being sexualised by other men in ways that are as dangerous as the way young women and girls are sexualised.

Aside from that, I agree with the comment from @Pons_Aelius@kbin.social that it's about misidentifying sexualisation as positive attention and seeking the latter by ways of the former.

[-] dumples@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I like this article but I feel like it's missing a few things. It's missing some details about how normal male sexuality is demonized by the current sex negative culture. This includes simple things such as wanting to look at porn, wanting to masterbate and being attracted to multiple people. These are demonized into saying that men are pigs and this doesn't even fit the kink desires that most men get at puberty. This are completely demonized as some perverted desire especially those unmanly submissive desires. Even the as simple desire to be watched as a sexual being. This sex negative push drives great shame and anger especially towards those who can be viewed as a sex object. This drives a hate towards women and gay men who can dress sexy or slutty while the traditional manly man can't at all.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I am not disagreeing with the article but I think the better description would be:

"Young men (12-24 is used by the author) would like more positive attention. They see the attention young women receive via sexualisation as positive but are unaware of the many downsides it brings."

[-] bloopernova@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

That was a really good read! Eye opening, too.

As a partially disabled man, unable to run and too weak to fight, I'm on guard a lot. It's fucking exhausting. Yet it's still a tiny fraction of what women experience. The entirety of unwanted attention and actions against women is too much to really comprehend for men.

What change can we make as men that will be a rising tide, lifting both men and women?

[-] Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Get a ccw. No reason why you should have to live in fear

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm very much a proponent of 2A rights. But carrying, by itself, is not going to eliminate fear, and may not even moderate it significantly. And someone that's disabled may not be able to effectively use a firearm, and they certainly won't be able to use one effectively with training.

[-] Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

You are not a proponent of 2a then.

[-] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Uh, what? I'm Canadian, but isn't the Second Amendment a negative right? The government isn't allowed to stop you from carrying a gun. You can agree with that and still think there are reasons an individual might not want to carry a gun.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

For myself, I found that simply largely being off social media, or being very careful in curating my content, has helped. I don't get positive attention, but I also don't see other people getting positive attention, so I'm less immediately aware of it. In the case of men, since they aren't usually in danger from the lack of attention, their perception of that attention gap is, itself, the problem.

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