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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world

The election is in three weeks, and Pennsylvania is a must-win state for both Trump and Kamala Harris, but during a rally last night in Montgomery County, northwest of Philadelphia, Trump got bored with the event, billed as a “town hall,” and just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage. Trump is no stranger to surreal moments, yet this was one of the oddest of his political career.

This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was a Democrat.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 115 points 22 hours ago

This is a comment i made in a different thread:

The actual event is, as usual, fascinatingly cringey.

This is right after the second guy fainted, so trump’s already been interrupted twice, the venue’s tiny, and I think he doesn’t like dog killer Kristi Noem despite obvious commonalities. She was probably insufficiently subservient.

He wants security to open the doors to let fresh air in, but they can’t because of USSS measures to protect his dumb ass. Watch how he loses his mind in rage, suppresses it, and rolls it into his patter in the span of one second.

Then he says hey everybody lets all hear my favorite - Pavarotti singing Ave Maria! (Crowd cheers). The fuck? It gets weirder from there.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 70 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Republicans don't want a leader. They want a vegetable. Every (normal) Republican runs on limited government, then gets into power and adds government: (Nixon and the EPA, Bush and Homeland security, etc...) Regan came to power and then didn't do any of that, since he had alzheimers and didn't know who he was half the time.

That is the golden age they want to bring back.

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[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 163 points 1 day ago

This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was ~~a Democrat.~~ literally any other person on the planet.

Fixed it for you.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 day ago

Nah. I'm pretty well convinced a number of other Republicans could behave like this and the press wouldn't care.

Ol Mitch has fucking had strokes on camera and the media is like, oh that is just ol Mitch doing ol Mitch things. What a fellow!

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 12 points 21 hours ago

Maggie Haberman saw nothing. Nothing!

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago

The orange loser should toss out some Gold Diapers.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Remember though…. bOtH siDeS r tEh sAmE!

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 72 points 1 day ago

I think at this point the Trump ticket is the JD Vance for President ticket. If they win, even if he doesn’t drop from a bad stroke or cardiovascular disease, the team will 25th his ass.

It’s essentially the Vance / Johnson ticket going forward.

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

the team will 25th his ass

That’s what they should do in that situation, but in reality, there’s no chance. The bar is too high.

From the 25th Amendment:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Trump would have a cabinet full of true believers and yes-men. There’s no way that more than half would be on board to jettison him. The Congressional cure is also a non-starter. If Trump were to win, there would probably also be a Republican-controlled Congress, and we all know that Congressional Republicans have zero spine when it comes to standing up to daddy.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 24 points 21 hours ago

Idk. Vance doesn’t strike you as just waiting for that opp? Look at how he flip flops.

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[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 21 hours ago

I completely, wholeheartedly believe that the GOP could fight kicking and screaming to get Trump elected and then immediately, unanimously 25 him before the inauguration is even complete. They have zero shame. This is not even slightly outside of their ballpark.

It's an obvious con, but that didn't stop them from doing the exact same thing with their supreme court justices. That was also an obvious con that would not have been allowed in any functioning government.

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.

Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 21 hours ago

Yes. You have to remember you aren't electing Trump directly. You're voting for his electors.

If Trump dies before taking office, the party decides who will take his place.

It's most likely going to be Vance, but honestly it could be anyone.

Assuming that there isn't any fuckery (it's Republicans after all), then Vance becomes President and then nominates a VP that goes through the Senate approval process.

I can't remember the last time this was discussed but it was a while ago.

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.

My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?

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[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

If only we could be so lucky.

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

Well thats why i ask. You can say lucky us, but at this point in the election, im not so sure.

Between the vitriol and retoric and conspiracy theories weve already seen, the implication of violence and absolute craziness would, without question be enough for me to not hope for anything like that.

But im asking about how the voting public would poll. Would vance get a martyr boost from their dear dead leader, or would an immediately apathetic undecided vote rise up, one that was origionally locked into the trump/vamce ticket. Would it just vanish overnight? I doubt it, but vance remains an amazingly unpopular vp pick. Without trump, where is his ceiling?

[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, that’s a good point; my brain is never prepared for the irrational conspiracies these idiots cook up. I would think that without trump, the whole momentum behind him would just die off, but who knows what would happen if Vance then just starts saying that the democrats poisoned his Big Mac and assassinated him. I’d like to think that only the die-hard crazies would still be motivated enough to vote for Vance and the rest would just stay home.

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage.

Context:
Trump called for Ava Maria to be played after a medical emergency put it on pause for about five minutes an hour into the event. He then took another question. Just a few minutes later, there was another medical emergency. Apparently it was a bit hot in the event space. It went off the rails soon after that as he called for the doors to be opened and wanting to play more music to end the event.

At one point he stops to ask if they want to do one more question. Although the crowd cheers and he says we'll do one more, he called for YMCA to be played.

Certainly an odd presidential town hall but definitely not the worst thing this guy has done and in no way did he "break down". Honestly, between the lies and threats to other humans, this might be the most human I've ever seen him. It's really sad to see how delusional these people are.

Here's the stream from PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FhvhdVSZE

My favorite part was when they played James Brown's "This is a Man's World". Clearly, they haven't listened to the song LOL

Edit: Here's another story from ABC News - Trump's bizarre music session reignites questions about his mental acuity

His choice to play music is debatable. Having watched the video, it didn't seem odd to me that he made these choices. There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

As much as I would love to believe that this is evidence of Trump in the throes of cognitive decline, I have to agree. Him standing there and doing nothing for 30 minutes is certainly low energy and cringe-worthy, but it isn't indicative of any kind of mental breakdown and the media and pundits are latching onto this too hard. The dishonestly on display is a little saddening, to be honest. There's plenty of things to hate Trump for without having to make up shit about his mental acuity.

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

God SNL is going to feast this weekend

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 23 hours ago

There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.

Clooney put a hit out on Biden for much less.

But the point is to report on this in the hopes that the American people will pay attention. I can only speculate why you want to keep a lid on it...

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Ugh worst Batman

Val tho… beautiful.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

Clooney was an excellent Bruce though.

But yeah. Kilmer and Conroy are the only actors who have managed to do justice to both. Greenwood and Oswald have given amazing performances but really can only do one half.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

I’m such a slut for Batman Forever… cheesy fun amazing movie where my beautiful Val and Jim KILLED IT

also my brain randomly just thinks “BLAAAST HIIIM” and “WHYYY WON’T YOU DIIIIIIE?!”

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[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Care to elucidate on who "these people" are?

[-] fraksken@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the context. I do agree this shines a different light on the proceedings ... However:

this might be the most human I've ever seen him.

Might be an indication of the claims above?

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

If you're implying that he's breaking down and becoming human, I wouldn't go that far.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

His poopy pants dance is perfect.

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