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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

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[-] rocci@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

In my situation, I'm in a solid blue state so I'm voting for a third party to push the country to the left.

This kinda makes sense, I guess that means not a swing state (I’m not American).

Do you have to be in a heavy blue state to do this without fear that if enough people do this it will swing red?

[-] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Yes, exactly. If you live in a solid blue or red state, your vote is a drop in the bucket, so it won't matter if you vote third party. But in swing states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.... in 2016, the number of votes won by Jill Stein was slightly greater than the difference between Trump/Clinton. Ouch! Was it worth it? Did it move the country left?

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[-] Stizzah@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Democrats: "Either you vote us or you are fucked. And no you won't get what you really want (the end of the genocide, healthcare, whatever), but you can choose to eat out shit or the republican's. Are you happy with that? No? Fuck you and vote Harris anyway ah ah ah. You don't have a choice, we don't give a shit about you and your problems but you have to vote us. You have to."

You see, people are realising that their vote is useless by design, and maybe the only way to change something is to punish the party that pretend to be the good one, the one that pretend to be at your side and pretend to work for you but it really doesn't.

They are making you believe that democracy is just about preventing the others to get elected because they are worst. No it's not, and you should stop being a victim and do something, anything, to force them to change. Even if you get 4 years of Trump: whoever think that it makes a difference is delusional, he's just blatant fascist while Harris is secretly fascist. They are just two different seasoning for the same plate of shit.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Her stance is practically indistinguishable from Trump's and enables Israel to continue the genocide.

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Because they’re willing to chop off their nose to spite their face, as the saying goes. Only in doing so they’re going to screw over the rest of us and apparently they don’t care.

Harris is the only sane choice.

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago

Shaming peoppe so they vote for your guy. Try harder.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It feels like watching Trump burn the middle east to the ground instead of Harris would be cold comfort for anyone proud of not actively voting for a different genocide abetting candidate. There is no anti-genocide candidate, sadly, but one party has at least the shadow of a conscience that can be pressured later.

[-] rentasonder@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Supporting someone currently committing genocide is an explicitly pro genocide stance.

I pray that you and your family are someday accorded the same mercy as you have for Gazans.

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