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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

So, I’m more conservative leaning (European wise) but everywhere I go - the communities are usually filled with so much hate. That I just avoid it.

Is there any place that I can go where there’s not so much based on hate but more on actual discussions and such?

Though, I have been told that - European wise, it is considered more leaning to left in eyes of US. So bit confused.

Note; please keep it civil.

EDIT: Thanks for the responses (even the hateful ones lol), I got the grasp of what I asked. I’ll look into the suggestions that were made.

EDIT 2: I LOVE how some of you are saying that conservatives are so hateful and yet here you are. Doing the exact same thing. Quite cute and ironic lol! That said if it makes you feel better to spew hate on Lemmy go ahead.

I always thought that the “left side” were open minded and friendly but seems I was wrong, at least here on Lemmy. I suppose, Lemmy become Reddit 2.0. In that way.

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[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 107 points 11 months ago

Good luck, there's a reason that conservatism is inundated with hate.

It might be a lot easier to re-evaluate your own moral compass and realize that maybe if everyone you want to hang out with is full of hate, you need to find a new crowd.

[-] astraeus@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

Everyone is capable of grandstanding and shit-throwing. Politics just so happens to bring out the worst in people

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's telling that OP will answer other *top comments, but not this one. Where you at, InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzero.com?

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Uncertain why but your tag did not give an notification.

To the question, it is not that ‘’I want to hang out with other hateful people’’ In fact, I do not at all. Majority with who I spent time with (real life and online) are left-leaning.

I was just curious if there are any conservative place without the hate but, it seems not. I thought Lemmy was a bit different in the sense that, I could question such a thing but to my surprise – I cannot.

Majority here freaks out about the question and start to hate. You have an different opinion than the majority here? Hate and downvotes it will be, just like Reddit. Which is fine, it’s online and anonymity does its job (I suppose lol).

People here perceive me suddenly ‘’hateful & bigot’’ due to 1 different opinion and 1 question which is funny to be honest. Even more funnier with the fact that, I actually have friends who are in LGBTQ and/or are in different political mindset, religion etc. The ‘’issue’’ I’m having is that I do not really fit either of the spectrum. Not Left nor Right, each time I end up in the middle (Centrum right). Therefore I was wondering how the right-side would be without the focus on hating but it seems, no luck to that.

Hope this answers the question. If not, feel free to tell and I will retry to explain it.

[-] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You weren't being downvoted for having a different opinion. You we're being downvoted for being an asshole.

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[-] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago

Since you were unwilling to be open or direct with your beliefs (a hallmark of conservatism), I did you the favor of looking through your comment history to try and find the disconnect. And I did.

You seem just as insufferable as other conservatives, just more sexist than racist, which is not an improvement.

At the end of the day, the right is about abusing people infavor of financial gains and controlling their lives. Whatever justification they apply to it is irrelevant. In every country all over the planet, they use different reasons but the political right is always about controlling people.

So you're looking for a community without hate, but your only willing to look at abusive communities. You're not going to find it. You need to ask yourself, why are you a conservative and why do you still want to be part of them?

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[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

Maybe if you be more specific about your stances on policies, it would be easier to find you a group.

[-] master5o1@lemmy.nz 35 points 11 months ago

Any hyper focused group, especially one that has an excluded "other", will form a totem idea of that other and unreasonably become extremely against that totem. So hate spirals out of control. This occurs on either ends of the political spectrum. It can happen with sports teams vs their rivals.

CGP Grey made a video a number of years ago explaining such things better. https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc.

[-] 01011@monero.town 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Conservatives typically do not like discussion or debate because it forces them to look at the status quo and ask hard nosed questions. Try the religious forums - Islam, Christianity or any communities focused on nationalism. I imagine that's where such people hide.

Also, European conservatives are usually just as bigoted as their north American brethren. The major difference is that they may be less religious.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

I appreciate the candid responses, and I don’t have a solution for you, but the question is an interesting one. Most of the ‘conservative’ people I know who are not interested in the typical hate-filled conservative politics seem to be invested in family and religious pursuits - home-schooling, church volunteering, support groups sometimes - things like that.

If those are of interest, there are likely to be communities that talk about them (or you could start one). However, when it comes to conservative politics, the actual money and laws that those same people support with their votes and donations - that’s pretty hateful stuff, and most of it boils down to some kind of sexism, racism, classism, or something like that.

You might try looking for more academic areas where a particular teaching, theory, or philosophy is being discussed. But daily news items about conservative politics are going to be full of high emotion because a lot of wrongs are being done every day to people and things that deserve better.

Good luck!

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago

Lemmy is a cesspool for politics. Of all flavours. Hell, most of the internet is. Lemmy is especially left slanted though. I wouldn't look for anything remotely right wing here. Hell I wouldn't look for anything politically flavoured. All you'll find is Lemmygrad, Hexbear and Exploding Heads. All awful cesspools of different flavours.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 11 months ago

Lemmy is a cesspool for politics. Of all flavours. Hell, most of the internet is

Because politics itself is a cesspool.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Well you certainly aren't wrong about that.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 11 months ago

I think a lot of it comes from people wanting to share their opinion, but not wanting to understand the opposing opinion. The objective isn't to persuade, to educate, to reach it a workable understanding - the objective is to emote, throw some blame around, or just drive by opinions.

There's a ton of brigading going on, everywhere, but here too.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Define conservative and hate

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

All political subs are full of hate. Pseudonymous social media just isn't a good venue for that kind of discussion.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

I blocked all political / political meme instances. Lemmy is as much of a cesspool from both sides as reddit was.

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