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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 384 points 5 days ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 125 points 5 days ago

Trump was already facing multiple criminal and civil suits in 2016. They had 8+ years to hold him accountable for even a single thing, and didn't.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 62 points 5 days ago

Yeah this is an important point. If the system lets guys like Trump get away with obvious crimes for 8 years, and that's when it's working as intended, then the system needs to be dismantled. Maybe the only way to drain the swamp is to let it turn into a sinkhole that drags everything down with it. Not that we have much choice in the matter at this point.

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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 299 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”

Then why did YOU?!

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 83 points 5 days ago
[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

I'd like to start a new response of "I don't care if you're joking, you're still an asshole".

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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 247 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 107 points 5 days ago

Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

Trump says 'I don't kid' after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.

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[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 days ago

Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.

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[-] archonet@lemy.lol 98 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Conservatives: I like [insert obnoxious conservative figurehead] because they tell it like it is, they mean what they say

Also conservatives, sometimes in the same breath: Fake! [obnoxious conservative figurehead] didn't mean that! Taken out of context! 'Tis but a jape!

Jesus fuck the reality distortion field is strong, it's like doublethink but without being a clever social trick to survive, it's just they're that stupid.

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[-] zib@lemmy.world 194 points 5 days ago

I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.

Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.

So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.

TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

The people who voted for evil do.

The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

"America" is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

there are alot of voters that didn't vote *at all *.

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[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 days ago

Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don't have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 41 points 4 days ago
[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

Don't catch you slippin' now

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 157 points 5 days ago

"I don't like it when you show me what I'm supporting"

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 82 points 5 days ago

Hold MAGA accountable. Every. Single. Day.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

The velocity of those goalposts is astounding.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Republicans consider a "joke" to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago
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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

That goes against what I believe so I will reject it.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 91 points 5 days ago

bullies always start out "joking"

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 100 points 5 days ago

They've lied so much and gaslit so much that people don't know what to believe anymore.

And with all the AI and Russian troll farm bullshit being posted on social media, it's just poisoning the truth. It's time to ditch Twitter, Facebook and company.

I keep telling my folks that and that they'll end up being influenced and manipulated but they refuse because of how convenient it is. And I almost have to keep it because that's the only way they communicate right now.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 75 points 5 days ago
[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago

Shut them down, but leave them a route out.

It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.

If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?

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[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 70 points 5 days ago

Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 67 points 5 days ago

I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.

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[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

"The things we said we're gonna do? We're doing them."

:O

[-] auzy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I also argued with someone who said the information was a badly organized protest and said I was overreacting lol

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 41 points 5 days ago

Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago
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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

We know most of them are stupid.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago

RumbaGPT, how will this play out?

He's probably just joking and if he's not, it's not so bad and if it is that bad it won't affect you and it if will you deserve it

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago

How delusional. They’re gonna try to pass all of it.

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My parents contantly regurgitates propaganda from wechat about how democrats in NYC are letting homess people and migrants ruin everything.

We dont even live in NYC.

I told her to vote Harris and she did (she didn't even know how to fill out a ballot I had to tell her how to) but then later she said "maybe we shouldn't vote for democrats" because of the homeless shelters built near Chinese populations in NYC (which is a fair grivence, but I dont see how republicans are gonna solve it better). Abosolutely no independent thought and no critical thinking just parroting whatever the last person said.

She doesn't understand that the "homeless" or "migrants" are just dogwhistles referring to people like us who maga republicans deem inferior.

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