Ah, they're all crap.
Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.
The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.
I chalk most of the shit that makes teams horrible, is closely related to electron and their whole web app as a desktop app bullshit.
Buckle up, because they're doing that same enshittification to outlook next. It's already begun. There's a "new" Outlook. FML.
I can’t believe we still can’t moderate chat in a public webinar…. « Hey the guy who wrote ‘FUCK’ 20 times? Yeah you can kick him out, but make sure to keep these messages visible for all posterity »
Can’t send private messages to outsiders also. Who could EVER need this in a public event anyway?
And make sure you can’t let people join the breakout room of their choice. Take the time to individually assign them one by one before the meeting! Fun!!
Hey at least we can play Backgammon in a meeting, so there’s that right?
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Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams
Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.
I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.
Yeah, I have a similar experience, but it certainly lacks in features compared to other messengers. For example:
I like the integration w/ Outlook because we're basically forced to use it at work, but Slack is way better for almost everything that doesn't interact directly w/ Outlook. So if it's not a scheduled meeting, I and my team much prefer Slack.
I hate teams because it consistently doesn't just work
missed notifications, screensharing
i have little use of it and it constantly breaks
For me "it just works" doesn't ring true. Generally at least once a day, I join a call and it won't let me unmute, and I have to restart Teams.
Scrolling through history is obnoxiously slow.
The activity feed is mostly useless, spammed with stuff that isn't important and it's the only place that vaguely tries to keep track of 'Teams' conversations.
In my company, I've been added to about 70 Teams and it's pretty much impossible to interact with them, so as a result no one does, they all just start ad-hoc chats, since that's the only thing that vaguely gets managed in a way people can follow.
When going cross-organization, it's a crap shoot whether or not we can use text, voice, and screen share/remote control. I know this is generally due to obnoxious company 'security' policies and other solutions have it, but it is a frustration. One recent call with a particularly screwed up company had us on two different meeting platforms at once as well as on an old fashioned conference call, because text was only allowed on one platform, screen share on another, and no audio was allowed on either (despite both supporting all three).
Sure, Teams suffers, in part, because like all corporate tools it connects you to generally dysfunctional work communities. However it broadly does have it's own annoyances.
We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.
We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.
Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.
Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.
Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.
Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.
I've personally never had an issue with Slack, mic/video included. My connection has always been solid, though. Never tried on a shit connection.
Next you'll tell me the sky is blue.
If we were on Teams right now I may not have received this snarky message.
Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly
Eh, I thought that was already common knowledge. We use it at work because the Outlook integration works correctly 99% of the time and call quality is largely okay. I hate it as a text messenger or impromptu call tool, but we have Slack for that anyway.
Lol... It is indeed common knowledge... I was just joking.
Using Teams as a freelancer with multiple clients who roll their own user management is a PITA.
I had to sign into multiple browsers in private mode
The fact that me and a coworker can't both share our screens at the same time is absolutely batshit. 1x1 collaboration isn't even reasonable, nevermind anything more
The only thing it does better than Slack: A list of all my chats, most recent at the top, without any disappearing or grouped in some weird way. Slack annoys me.
I got slack for my college course, I left the group. I have no fucking idea what is going on on that app it was insanity. Seemed like 12 different groups of the same people and sometimes you got notifications sometimes you did not.
It was just a really bad UI and UX.
I work in IT. I think it's popular because it's "free".
With that said, I put up a picture on the office wall of a Swiss army knife with features like syringe, fire extinguisher, axe, etc and have it labeled Microsoft Teams. Yes, it can do 100 different tasks, fucking poorly.
Exactly. Every time I mention some feature I like from Slack to a coworker of mine who loves Teams, they point out how to accomplish the same task, but it's less intuitive, feature poor, and comes with a handful of caveats. But it can do them, and I guess if you're used to it, it can be pretty productive.
"Your organization has blocked this action"
I mean this is my work phone, and I'm trying to copy a customer's phone number from a spreadsheet to the dialer, but thanks man.
I’m annoyed you still can’t do annotations with Teams.
Haha be thankful for what you have. I work at a pretty large financial institution and we still use Skype for Business. There is another messaging app we use but not everyone is granted access to it so I have to use both apps daily.
that is because theyre selling it to the business, not the end user. They dont give 2 fucks about your experience
I was expecting a detailed rant, including an example or two. “That’s all” is much, much funnier.
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