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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 2 hours ago

Correct, Biden just cozying up to Trump when he should be using emergency powers to arrest this madman who under the 14th Amendment isn't even eligible to be President was absolutely sickening to me.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Biden doesn't even know wtf is going on. If he does, the last thing he's doing is trying to salvage his legacy. He's got no fight in him.

He truly fucked us. Not saying Harris would've won necessarily, but having only 3 months to run a campaign against someone who's been running for 8 years is tricky. You can see why given the number of people googling if Biden dropped out...

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

"The establishment party must become an anti-establishment party"

Have you all learned nothing from 2016? Democrats will rather let Trump win that let this happen.

The slide to the right is no accident nor is it ignorance. Fool me once...

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Are you suggesting that Democrats want alt-right leadership in power?

[-] FantasmaNaCasca@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

They want corporarions to stay in power. The 2 parties are just flavours of capital.

Neither are for the public.

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

They and their donors would prefer thst over a Bernie win.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

Nothing has convinced me of that more than Biden and Trump's sudden bromance

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 12 points 3 hours ago

Or there needs to be an anti-establishment party, since the Democrats can never be one.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

They are the establishment. Why would they ever change? They would rather Trump win, than their easy paychecks be disrupted. You are never going to get a democrat to care about people.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

well just in time for the supreme-court-approved executions of the anti-establishment politicians. imagine not getting this after Bernie had massive support despite all the efforts of the Democratic party, and after the orange cunt winning just by paying lip service to being anti-establishment...

seriously, that's all you needed to do. not actually do anything, not help anybody. just fucking lie and pretend you give a shit about people grievances about being crushed by the system.

you couldn't even clear that bar on the fucking ground, and lost to a cunt who's known for firing people, not paying for anything, and shitting on a gold toilet. because you're physically incapable of criticizing systemic oppression.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 49 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Going further right didn't help, now we need to go as left as possible

Radical ideas like Universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, free child care, taxing the rich.

[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 34 points 6 hours ago

Radical ideas the rest of the 1st world had had for 50 years and successfully implemented.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 7 hours ago

What?

They are the establishment.

[-] oyo@lemm.ee 28 points 6 hours ago

Thus the call to become something else; become being the operative word, meaning to change from what they currently are.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 28 points 8 hours ago

Just like GOP refugees created the Tea Party, we need to rally around the greatest symbol of the French Revolution, and build a Guillotine Party.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

Let's call it the Rule of Law Party. One law for all of us. An end to elite impunity.

[-] LunarVoyager@lemmy.world 44 points 9 hours ago

Wow, if only there had been an anti establishment candidate running for president as a democrat in 2016... too bad...

[-] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago

I fear it's too late. Unless the party can be taken by force it won't be enough and we only have 4 years. If dems didn't snub Bernie this all probably wouldn't have happened. Our choices used to be two flavors of corporate fascism, now it's far right vs corporate. Dems are better on social issues, but it's not enough.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 13 points 8 hours ago

Dems are clearly better on economic issues as well. Not nearly good enough, but better. The problem is that they will only go so far, and they won't talk about it, out of fear of angering their wealthy patrons.

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