These are starting to really stack up with the nutty mods in some of these places and I'd like to keep score and perhaps display them somewhere. I'm wondering if there's a list?

If not, short of crawling every community findable by an account and checking banned status by e.g. attempting to post, is there a way to collate such a list programmatically with e.g. an API or cURL or selenium automation, given the structure of the fediverse?

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[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, it must be the numerous different "nutty" mods! It's definitely not you that's the common denominator here!

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

Right? "I've been banned from enough communities on different topics that I can't keep track! Could it be that I'm an asshat? No, it's definitely the mods..."

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I looked at the modlog and while OP seems snarky, sarcastic, and opinionated, their bans seem pretty unnecessary by my standards. The stated reasons seem fairly dubious, more mod finds your opinion disagreeable than any rule-breaking.

Moderation on Lemmy is a shit show honestly.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

reddit and lemmy are nearly homogenous in terms of humor and politics and personality. there's a way to speak so that your comments aren't misunderstood and it often means prefacing what you're about to say with some context that wouldn't otherwise be needed, or ending with /s or something like that. if you've been here long enough you forget how weird this is

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I mean there are some shit mods man. I got banned from a community once because I criticized a New York Post article. Said it was baseless and there was no substance to it. I guess the guy was mad that I correctly identified the source.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I got banned once for saying the holocaust was one of many genocides throughout history and not unique...

Edit: I'm really curious to know if people downvoting the above statement think Nazis invented the genocide?

[–] dubbel@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People are downvoting you, because while the Holocaust wasn't the first nor last genocide, it still is unique. Your initial statement makes two claims, but you only refer to the one less controversial one in your "curious edit".

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[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

But that was one case, of course there are some mods that are just shit (or maybe just interpreted things wrong, made a mistake or acted based on emotions for various reasons) but if it's this many cases, it becomes kinda hard to believe that all of those mods are the issue and not the person getting banned by multiple mods

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Are you saying there aren't a metric fuckton of power-tripping nutjobs in self-appointed positions of authority in the Fediverse?

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[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

I think some Fediverse mods are more extreme and biased than their equivalent on Reddit.

For example, criticizing the anti-men stance (as in: nothing to do with feminism) promoted by jlai.lu admins for example got me my ban. My first ever ban despite being very active on Reddit for 10 years prior to migrating to Lemmy.

Smaller communities do feel like an echo chamber as a consequence.

PS: sh.itjust.works admins do look fine though!

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[+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

From reading their posts, op is either sarcastic to a degree that does not play well on the Internet, or continually dip their toes into communities with highly charged opinions and then acts surprised when their peers take offense.

The transmedicalism accusation is borderline spurious and I think the accusations is extreme given what I read (they're more taking note of the difference between fashion expression and gender. They're not saying who is it isn't trans to gatekeep, they're presenting the idea that some people might be less confused and make different life choices if more people tolerated traditionally-gendered subjects (like clothing and makeup) from anyone without judgement

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OP was helping people find meth on the dark web in the ADHD community and when their posts were removed they posted the same again.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you exaggerating when you say meth? Were they helping people who couldn't afford medication find prescription medicine at reasonable prices? Or was it literally street meth?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

No. I was helping people practice harm reduction if they do get amphetamine - be it Adderall or LisDex formulation like Vyvanse/Elvanse without the oversight of a medical professional or pharmacist and explaining that it is a possibility, and that instead of the war on drugs type approach of claiming it's simply not real, we should take care of our own with solidarity, e.g. explaining how to get proper purity tests to ensure you are not consuming meth, how to find reliable and semi-trustworthy sources, avoid scams etc.

Just comveying things I learned the hard way - from experience - while waiting on the NHS for a prescription that I have now and having to keep my life together to keep my job etc in the meanwhile.

I did the same for my own IRL gf who suffered from meds shortages, and I did the same for the trans community back in the day and I stand by it.

Edit: I genuinely cannot understand how this can be downvoted by anyone of sound mind whatsoever. Every single person I know with ADHD self-medicates or has self-medicated with darknet amph or supplemented during shortages due to healthcare system fuckups, but they are shit at it, getting god knows what miscallenous powders and suffering.

How could someone ever possibly disagree with promoting harm reduction practices, yet agree with a sensationalist comment that equates ADHD medication to meth? How can you actually think at all, and arrive at such a conclusion?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

The opinions on the morality of harm reduction are irrelevant. The ADHD community on Lemmy is not the appropriate place to spread that knowledge for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with the morality of harm reduction.

I'm not surprised you got banned. You were putting the administration and moderation team in a very difficult position. You should have simply stated 'I have knowledge about X. Contact me on direct messages or Session/Signal/Matrix for details'

For the record I completely agree with your position on harm reduction

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How can you actually think at all, and arrive at such a conclusion?

Bold claim, asserting that whoever downvoted you thought before doing it. Humans short-circuit all the time, nothing you can do about that, and getting bitter or exasperated won't help, either. Deal with it. If you want you can start your comments with something universally agreeable, that always helps, and only then get into details. "Universally agreeable" as in "agreeable to both truth and all false notions anyone on earth has at the moment". If you want to get idiots to listen you have to start out on a common ground that they share.

More specifically, in this case, you could've started your comment with a short rant about the state of availability of ADHD medication.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The trans whatever thing seems like something I've wondered, and now I know better than to state any such opinions online.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trying to talk about it online is like trying to talk about jews and Israel without being called an antisemite. You better have a lot of time to explain exactly what you mean.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They’re not saying who is it isn’t trans to gatekeep, they’re presenting the idea that some people might be less confused and make different life choices if more people tolerated traditionally-gendered subjects (like clothing and makeup) from anyone without judgement

When an identity seems to be defined by appearance/presentation to those who don't understand it personally, assuming the identity would occur less frequently if social norms were less restrictive does make sense. Like personally I don't think drag would be a thing if it wasn't a bit of a response to gender norms. I mean even if society didn't care about which gender wears which clothes some guys would get dolled up and even do essentially the same performative thing because some people just love to perform, but it wouldn't be the same thing that drag is now and it wouldn't be controversial to bigots. I mean women wearing pants was a huge fucking deal for no real reason and nobody really cares anymore.

But using clothing choices as a reason someone might be trans misses the point that a lot of trans people wore jeans and t shirts before and after transitioning because there is far more to it than the superficial appearance of clothing choice.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think reading it as "clothing choices as a reason someone might trans" is reductive of the point being made

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 6 months ago

That said there could be better ways to show info like this on the fediverse. Except, it's complicated.

You could be banned on an instance, but also separately banned on an individual community on an instance, or your instance could be defederated from one running a community. Any of which could lock you out in theory.

It's not as clear cut as closed systems. This is mostly a good thing but for clarity, not so much :p

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is jsut kind of what happens if you dip into random posts on thr global feed. There is a mix of generalist Lemmy sites that expect people to behave like they're on Reddit, and everything's just a free for all, and insular sites that are focused on a narrower community, operating more like independent forums.

Stepping into one of these spaces, and treating it like a big, open one is going to get you tossed on your ass like you're DJ Jazzy Jeff in an Uncle Phil convention.

You need to be aware of what community you are engaging with around here, because it might not want your participation. That is not power tripping, that is just being unwelcoming.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly this. And some of these communities have very good reasons for being insular in order to protect specific goals they have established.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, I looked at what I was banned from: some of them are communities I've never even interacted with like !tesseract@dubvee.org? What is that even?

And slrpnk has an automated bot now that bans and unbans people. Again, from a community I don't even recognize (pleasant politics? huh?).

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The automated bot was created by the mod of pleasant politics in an effort to create a place to talk about politics that didn't have trolls and nasty people. It scans users across the lemmyverse and determines to ban or unban based on how inflammatory you are, which is determined by your downvote/upvotes ratio over time.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That seems quite easy to game. Create a bunch of accounts across multiple instances, target a user you don't like, find comments / posts with low vote counts and downvote all of those. That'll skew the ratio and get them "preemtively" banned from communities that use that bot.

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[–] rglullis@communick.news 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=7652836

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Cheers!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"All the communities" you're ... dude, what kind of serial shitposter... nevermind, have a nice day bye.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah? Which ones am I not? Lol I'm not a shitposter wtf?

I'm only banned from communities to do with queerness, socialism, Europe, news, ADHD and politics. I'm a trans woman from Europe who has ADHD, is a socialist (Anarchist) with an interest in news and politics.

My hobbies also include hacking, planes (simming primarily the A320 and general aviation interest), milsims, trains, AI, philosophy, social sciences, history, paleontology (especially the Cambrian and Devonian), music production (DAWs, plugins, synths, etc.), video making (esp. editing), programming, space (orbital mechanics/astrodynamics and astronomy), Unix/Linux/BSD, SelfHosted/homelab stuff, gaming (inc. the culture), macroeconomics, electronics (as in, breadboard prototyping, IoT with pi/arduino, embedded hacking and physics of electricity), flashlights, manga, TV shows (just finished Generation Kill), Star Trek, drugs (psychs mostly), retro computing (C64 and Amiga) and many more I can't recall rn and I seek out and subscribe to communities on Lemmy for all of them, plus those with differing opinions politically e.g. neoliberal/neocon, socdem, tankies etc.

Is that really so odd? It's pretty normal to me. I used Reddit in the same way.

I just don't have insane hivemind opinions, but relatively reasonable ones and voicing any of that (Ukraine right to self-defense, gender dysphoria is a medical disorder treated by transition - not a choice, AI can be useful etc etc.) seems to be a big no-no on some parts of Lemmy.

Anyway this is all extremely off-topic at this point so I'll probs delete this thread later but I'm genuinely curious why you'd think I'm a shitposter.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can see it in your modlog by filtering by community bans. Here's a link to that: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=7652836

That said a lot of these bans you received seem more than justified, only the Hexbear ones I would really chalk up to nutty mods, but if you disagree I'd suggest posting about it on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com as this isn't the place to discuss mod abuse, that is.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't you go to the modlog and search your name filtered by mods actions?

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