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[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago

At the top should be "1991-2001 Ukraine must give Russia it's nuclear missiles or they can no longer be friends, if they do give them, Russia will recognize Ukraine as an independent state and soverignty over its borders"

1991 - 2001 Ukraine gives russia all of its nuclear arsenal.

2014 - Russia invades Ukraine anyway, attempts to "anonymize" its soldiers, when caught declares them on holiday and not under its juristiction, meanwhile proclaims captured territories and population as Russian.

2022 - Russia starts a full scale invasion of Ukraine, declaring Ukraine as a country never existed, it's always been part of Russia. Starts abducting and brainwashing children, replaces original populace in captured areas with Russians, and expedites new Russian passports for the rest.

Somewhere in there there might still be reasoning towards a red line, but I lost track of it :-D

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 weeks ago

i want to thank the internet minds (maybe OP or whoever made this) for breaking down military strategy in a way i can almost understand <3 keep doing what you do across the board because im lowkey not smart lol

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I can see why people are starting to get a little more concerned with regards to western retaliation, given that there aren't many more steps that can be taken before NATO finally bite the bullet, bring Ukraine into the fold, and formally enter the conflict.

It feels like there's a game of chicken being played by all sides, all while Ukraine lose lives and land.

What surprises me is the lack of opposition that Putin seems to have. Close to a million Russian lives are lost, their economy is crumbling, yet no one seems to think of officially or unofficially offering a way out for the Russians. While Russia is arguably at the point of no return, a new leader could pull out immediately, rebuild relationships with the west, and transform an economy overnight. All they need to do, at a high level, is not be such a cunt.

[-] funnything 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe the west shouldn't have sent Yeltsin.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thesr kind of regimes are in a state of constant implosion because they can't trust each others.

The only thing that stops them from collapsing is the outward pressure of being disappeared without being able to trust anyone else.

Challenging the status quo to them is basically suicide.

Eventually many loyal disappear and are replaced with new members. This new layer is consumed at a very fast rate but still takes a while to disappear

The only way it collapses is when the center concentrates so much power, without needing to disappear anyone because all possible traitors are gone, that is akin to an iron fist.

That's when the upper layers start collapsing on the core

[-] funnything 1 points 2 weeks ago

Remember when Biden redlined Israel? lmao

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

what is this meant to imply? that Russia has never done anything?

[-] funnything 1 points 2 weeks ago

It is meant to imply russia is weak. In reality it portrays them as the good guys that doesn't answer to provocations. Good job op

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

what about the invasion and the fact that even with the support of NATO, Ukraine is losing the war? what about the nuclear weapons they could use at any point? they're not weak at all

[-] funnything 1 points 2 weeks ago

The truth is if there's a war I hope we put the warmongers on the frontline.

[-] funnything 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What about the fact that ultranationalist russian regime have been established by the west in the first place, after which the eastern block starved for ten years?

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