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[-] sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social 126 points 11 months ago

I find grass so useless. Every boomer parent I've known is just obsessed with it, too. They think that not having a green, green monoculture lawn means you've failed morally or something, and that it's how they show the neighborhood how responsible they are. One GF's dad came over to our random Winconsin lawn of grass and weeds and strawberries and was "I WOULD JUST PULL THIS ALL UP AND START OVER". Uh.... no?

Then I had an across the street neighbor (guy with a bumper sticker "I've never seen a FLAG burned at a GUN SHOW") who would mow his lawn every single day with a riding mower. You couldn't even tell what part he had done yet. I went out of town for two weeks and he rode over and mowed my lawn. I left my backyard just go and it was awesome... after a few years, birds started nesting in the middle of the prairie, and I had flowers growing I'd never seen anywhere else.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 11 months ago

They all seem obsessed with plastic grass now which is even worse.

My garden is mostly weeds. Haven't cut it in 15 years. I pretend to be a trendsetting wild gardener, but really I'm just a lazy bastard.

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

Did you sue? I'd have been livid enough to try to sue. IANAL, but at a minimum I would hope that would be trespassing.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 38 points 11 months ago

Some places have bylaws on maximum lawn height and you can actually be fined for letting it go. That's how insane people are about lawns.

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[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago

I mean that's probally overkill, that person was either OCD or was thinking he was doing them a favor. That sounds like a great way to have a pissed off neighbor and a potentially hostile neighborhood

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[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It seems like people used to suburbs see that as the pinnacle of life but of course that's not true.

In my experience rural areas get it because they are farmers and beekeepers with an understanding that working with nature is the way to go

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

I went out of town for two weeks and he rode over and mowed my lawn.

This happened to me too. grillman are so violently obsessed with inch-high fuzzy green rectangles of obedience that they'll sometimes invade your property to make more of them, overriding any of their own pretenses about the sanctity of private property in the process.

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[-] revlayle@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm 52 and hate mowing yards. Most other people my age are also obsessed with their lawns or simply "enjoy getting out and working on the yard"

There few things worse than doing yard work. I think dying is one of them, maybe.

Anyways, yeah we have a yard. We try to keep various bushes and wildflowers as we can. We go as log as possible in early spring to not mow and get all the clover and stuff to bring the bees and like insects over.

As for mowing, I pay someone 50 dollars every 2 weeks to keep it not looking like crap.

My father-in-law, who lives with us, used to do most of the gardening and lawn stuff. He is too old now to do any of it. He's always trying to get the rest of the people in the house to do stuff in the yard. I keep telling him "you know you are the only one who really gives a shit on how 'nice' the yard looks. My only goal is to keep the city and neighbors off our back, that's it.'

EDIT: Also neighbors seem intent on having a single uniform grass breed and obsessed with having no weeds. Nah, I have all the grasses and weeds. I have a neighbor down the street who is always just HAND PULLING weeds out of her lawn. Like hours and hours of it. I mean.. wat

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

Is there a nolawns community here?

Weirdly enough, it's small on reddit, and the biggest are on Facebook ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Facebook users typically skew older, so people that are more likely to have established careers, larger spaces and yards to work on. I feel like a lot of Redditors and Lemmings are young and live with parents or in apartments, and are thus less likely to have a yard to care for.

That being said, anyone with a deck or porch can pot a plant or two to try and help local pollinators.

[-] Buttons@programming.dev 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I want to make a short film / animation where aliens are approaching earth, the only thing we know about the aliens is that they plan to destroy all life and replace it with their own twisted creation. A few minutes of typical story follows, heroes assemble, go to fight, etc. The heroes lose and the ending scene shows that the aliens have succeeded and replaced all the diverse life on Earth with a perfectly manicured lawn that covers the entire planet. A biological wasteland.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

I will admit there is something very pleasing about looking at a well trimmed yard. That said, the percent of the earth's land surface covered by manicured lawns is tiny. The ag industry would love for you to believe your lawn is the problem. It isn't. The problem is the monoculture farm land. Acres of fields with only one type of crop. And probably other things like pollution and such. But industries love to play the "you are the problem" card to divert from themsleves.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 34 points 11 months ago

Yes, but also: Every little bit of help, well... helps.

Don't let those industries playing the blame game discourage you from dedicating a part of your yard to a bunch of flowers, because then the problem would get ever so slightly worse.

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[-] HaiZhung@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago

This is the correct answer, this shit is „your carbon footprint“ all over again

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[-] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

This + a massive over usage of pesticides

[-] dauerstaender@feddit.de 45 points 11 months ago
[-] Tedrow@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

This does not require mass weed killer, pesticides, and water though?

[-] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Weed and grass killer, yes, otherwise you have patches growing up.

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[-] sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago

You can pull weeds by hand.

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[-] rgb3x3@beehaw.org 38 points 11 months ago

Honestly, that may be better. At least it doesn't use water and it would be fine in a very dry environment out western US.

Native plants would still be even better though.

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[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Looks like an example of xeriscaping, or gardening with a minimal need for irrigation. Not the best I've seen, but at least it's water-conserving.

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago

Remember it's not just about saving honey bees! Honey bees are domesticated, which means that humans will make sure that they have food and shelter and appropriate medicine and care throughout the year to ensure they make honey.

Saving "the bees" moreso means saving wild, native, often times solitary bees like bumblebees or carpenter bees that don't produce honey but that also aren't domesticated - they have no safety net that humans give them.

Those bees along with all other pollinators like bats, birds, and other insects are the ones at risk!

Still, we should all consider growing native yards to return habitat back to these dying species!

[-] sheppard@feddit.uk 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The EU has uncultivated land subsidies. To avoid overproduction of food and overexploitation of the land, the EU pays farmers to keep their land uncultivated. Some countries, like mine, force farmers to uncultivate their land once every N years, and, of course, they get subsidies for this.

In my region, farmers will plant flowers and let weed grow, since they're not putting any pesticide. They let the flowers and weeds die and rot at the end of the season. This way, they dont have to put as much fertilizer the next year. I've always seen these uncultivated fields full of bees and other pollinators in summer.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago

I stopped cutting my grass and now I have rats :(

[-] the_third@feddit.de 36 points 11 months ago

Rats do not live off grass. If you have them, there's some sort of food source on your or your neighbors property.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Or, like, insects.

[-] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 7 points 11 months ago

They don't live off grass but long grass is great cover for them to move freely. My lawn is pretty wild, but I have to mow directly around the house otherwise mice and all sort of insects start taking up reaidence in the house.

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[-] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago
[-] Surreal@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

Now we have an owl infestation

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We do have foxes, but they've been a disappointment thus far.

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[-] quams69@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Bold to assume we own yards

[-] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 17 points 11 months ago

Your yard in your summer residence then. Jeez

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[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I have lived at my current property for nearly 7 years now, and while I cut the main area up against the house once a week, I typically let the rest grow out for a month. Never used sprays other than flea and tick for my dog's yard, and never even pulled weeds.

Still, it's almost all completely homogenous grass. Not sure what species, but it doesn't grow very high. 3-5 inches. No wildflowers have encroached, no other grasses except clover, not even weeds other than dandelion. The only other thing that grows anywhere is some English ivy that's pissing me off all over the house. Every time I pull some out and dig up the root, I find more a few days later.

Still, MUCH higher insect, pollinator, and other wildlife activity vs my previous residence. It's been nice seeing fireflies again, even if it's still nowhere near what it was when I was a kid.

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[-] Gorvin@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

I prefer a garden full of grown weeds than a clean grass cutted one. If a weed can grow and prosper without me watering it once a day, I think they deserve the right to be there more than anything my father ever planted on his yard that would die without getting water for 3 days or too much rain water.

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[-] Case@unilem.org 14 points 11 months ago

We keep the front mowed for the HOA.

The backyard can grow until we worry about snakes affecting our pups.

We have a front garden that gets no care outside HOA recommendations. It came with the house.

Can't wait until I can OWN a house, but the market (with all the influences upon it) isn't there.

I'm saving, and considering moving to another state, if that helps all the pedantic monsters our there.

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[-] MayvisDelacour@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I only mow at the last possible second to not get a fine, has been working really well for my yard. I have seen flowers, corn, and a beautiful assortment of creepers and clovers start taking over the sterile grass. My neighbors neighbor seems to get butthurt. They take care of my direct neighbors yard whom I share a chain link fence with, she loves my vines with the flowers and strange gourds that wind around the fence. Neither of us planted it but the people who tend her yard destroy it 😭if we just let everything happen naturally some very cool things start to crop up. I've seen some absolutely massive grasshoppers and a bunch of praying mantis as well. My bee hotel never attracts anything but I've seen plenty of bees about which makes me happy.

[-] Tankton@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago
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[-] yoz@aussie.zone 13 points 11 months ago

Reading all the comments and everyone is like not my yard , its full of flowers but for some reason I don't see any bees or butterfly 🤷‍♂️

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[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mine is an acre of natural meadow.

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

if I didn't take care of my lawn, I'd have invasive Bermuda grass getting into everything and it would kill all the other plants. I've also looked into overseeding with mini clover but I've read that it doesn't tolerate traffic well. open to any suggestions as I'm fighting a losing battle with fescue and the damn Bermuda.

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[-] 30p87@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago

It looked like that for exactly one summer. Not it's mixed again. And the lower half of the property is literal wilderness anyway. A mother deer with two fawns likes it a lot. The other plots are also completely mixed, and so large that we just have sheep on there to avoid mowing. Bonus: They're tame, fluffy, cuddly and warm.

[-] Titan@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

Individual yards are such a wasteful and environmentally destructive concept

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Few symptoms of old fashioned boomer-standard death cult mentality are as insidious and understated as the obsession with inch-high fuzzy green obedience rectangles and their hatred of viable ecosystems.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Not just the bees, all bugs in North America have seen a 75% die off in the last 20 years.

Big shocker that songbirds, which eat those bugs, have also seen a massive die off.

Despite those deniers that still blame housecats, the true culprit is almost certainly pollution and pesticides.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Is this the Windows 98 background?

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