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The Lemmy Developers are now personally blocking and banning users and communities critical of Tankies and the Developers. (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by goat@sh.itjust.works to c/tankiejerk@lemmy.world
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A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.

Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.

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[–] tra@lemm.ee 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Muting lemmy.ml and Hexbear has improved my lemmy experience significantly

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just saw an upvoted post on hex that I forgot to block that’s said China and NK should take over Taiwan while this whole HAMAS Israel thing is going on.

Also most of them think HAMAS and Palestine did nothing wrong by killing 300 people…they’re “fighting for their freedom”

They’re also anti Ukraine

Fuck them all

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

they are literally a death cult. they love hearing and seeing innocents die

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Seeing some of the stuff that's made it to the front from Hexbear about the Israel situation makes me wonder if people are going to run the risk of promotion of proscribed terrorist groups by hosing federated content from them.

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sucks that a lot of communities are on a tankie instance. Hope that they will move.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Raise awareness

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can we avoid conflating Lemmy with individual instances like lemmy.ml?

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

I don't think you quite understand. These are the actual developers of the software that is lemmy. They reside in lemmy.ml, but we are not talking about them just being "developers" of lemmy.ml, they are developers of the entire federation software that is lemmy.

So OP isn't conflating anything.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago

Why?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fork them

[–] karmiclychee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

This seems like a very good idea

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I started with an account on Lemmy.ml and was banned when I argued with the owner/developer, Dessalines, about the Xinjiang genocide being real. I noped out of there very quickly, and you should too. Other users have been banned for questioning the Tiananmen Square massacre.

[–] van2z@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wait, what do they think happened at Tienanmen Square then? And do they paint the wiki article about it as "fake news"?

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, literally. They argue it was a “mostly peaceful” student protest and a few people maybe got killed when they attacked police. They argue the scope and severity has been fabricated by the West, and that there is no evidence of a massacre.

All the usual tinfoil hat stuff you can expect from leftwing authoritarians.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

They blame the students for the deaths and that it also never happened.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh wow really? You should link that!

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had to dig a bit because Dessalines deleted the comments, but I found a screenshot. It references the Xinjiang genocide, not the Tiananmen Square massacre. Other users in the same thread were getting banned for discussing the Tiananmen Square massacre, but my ban was based on my comments about the Xinjiang genocide.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He deleted the comments? Can you link to the thread? Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It was many months ago and my account doesn’t show any of the comments anymore. Can you tell me how to locate the thread if my comments have been deleted? The username is in the screenshot.

Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

Surely if he deleted my comments, he deleted all the other critical comments too. I don’t follow your logic.

Edit: I found his comment on the thread. As you can see, my comments have been deleted. Most of the other comments on that thread being critical of Lemmy.ml and Dessalines have also been removed due to “orientalism.” This is what they call “being critical of China.”

[–] psud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which side did you argue?

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That it’s real, of course. Why would arguing the inverse get me banned on Lemmy.ml?

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People: "Come to the fediverse, there are no fascists, everything is cool and free of toxicity."

The fediverse: tankies, people who simps for tankies, genocidal apologists, harassment...

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sums it up seemingly well. The only upsid is that they created a platform they can not control AFAIK. So other instances can do whatever they want.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Give them time, they will eventually self-defederate.

[–] dramaticcat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

People: “Come to the fediverse, there are no fascists, everything is cool and free of toxicity.”

There are definitely fascists on the fediverse, they don't use the reddit-like (lemmy/kbin) part of the fediverse since exploding-heads shut down.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

exploding-heads are fascists, but I wasn't talking about them.

[–] baggachipz@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Hey internet, can we just not go fash or tankie for like 5 minutes? kthxbye

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This place is a cesspool compared to Tildes.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yes but counter-point: the owner of Tildes literally calls himself god, and acts like it. At least we can block lemmy.ml and just not go there.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

U can always trust a tankie to censor anything they don't like at any opportunity. They are the ultimate bad faith actors.