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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago

Banks seem to be hit or miss, happy that mine works. Would rather switch Banks than use a stock Rom, though.

All the Uber stuff works in Browser, both eats and their fake taxi stuff.

Not having a subtle reminder to eat at McDonald's is probably better for you.

Honestly, if your app could be a website, and includes services not on your website, fuck you, I'm gonna go to the competition.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago

Can Graphene add a feature to run in emulation mode to allow apps to believe it's on an unrestricted OS?

[-] mikey@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, this is probably because of the apps started using the Play Integrity API, which is a hardware-based attestation and can only be faked in two ways that GrapheneOS isn't interested in:

  • you can fake an older device that didn't support hardware attestation yet, or had a broken implementation
  • or you can try getting leaked vendor keys and emulate the crypto with those until they get revoked
[-] taanegl@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

So, uh, the next version of GrapheneOS will probably come with some Android OS version spoofing tech that solves this - if there isn't something on F-Droid already.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago

No it won't. Or at least they said on BlueSky that if there had been a work around for this they would have solved it already.

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[-] Roopappy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Why would anyone load an app from McDonalds? You want to give them elevated access to your most personal data for a few dollars of coupons?

What are they taking from you that's worth more than the discounts they are giving you? Because they are definitely making a profit, or they wouldn't be doing it.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

We are definitely in the era where people think discounts before user privacy. I bet most of people downloading the Mcdonald app do it exactly because of cheeper prices and easy of access.

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[-] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

man, and i was gonna switch to graphene this christmas. if every app can just ban my OS, i might have to rethink this. i would use the website but they restrict so many things to apps now…

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I was about to switch bank because for a few days my current one (inadvertently) blocked it on grapheneOS. We sent them a few emails and they fixed in less than a week.

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[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

TBF, this is the first time I've encountered an app not working - and it was before this. It's just because of Google push towards monopoly via their Play Integrity API that's ruining this.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

play "integrity" should be considered malware, any program that deliberately does something the user doesn't want it to should.

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[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

Use the websites whenever you can. That's what I do at least. Although I had to stop using Lyft entirely, because they stopped supporting rides from their website apparently. And that leaves just Uber. I actually left my bank for a similar reason. It supported my phone just fine, and it worked without Google Play Services, but the website wouldn't let me do everything that the app would, and the app required that I have Aurora Store to download their banking app from the Google Play Store, and I wanted to get away from that, so I switched banks so that I could use the bank website instead. From what I can tell, you run into this kind of stuff a lot with FinTech apps. But if you use older banks, like Discover or Wells Fargo or things like that, they tend to work better. Maybe because they're not up with the newest technology, LOL.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah Revolut is also the kinda app that is almost only a mobile app, not much you can do with their website, last i checked.

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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

This sounds like an antitrust legal problem...

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Authy has been utter garbage for a long time and if you ever needed a reason to migrate away then now is as good as ever.

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[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well that's bad. I've been using revolut for years now.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a new bank that's operating under european law?

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

If a business makes it too difficult to use them I just use someone else. I'm sure they understand that but are making a killing at the expense of other people.

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[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago
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[-] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Their loss.

[-] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 1 week ago

Well, Google is known for destroying its opposition.

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[-] SnotBubble@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

Would not updating Revolut keep the app compatible as long as you don't sign out?

If so, don't update the app and write down the build number of the last app version which worked on GrapheneOS. That way you would have a bit more time to sort things out.

[-] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 14 points 1 week ago

They constantly force you to update or the app won't work. I was already having issues with Revolut on GrapheneOS so I just closed my account and switched to Wise. The Revolut app was a bloated mess anyway.

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[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I haven't switched my phone yet, but will do so soon. Does anyone have experience with compatibility layers on phone, akin to wine? I unfortunately cannot go without my public transport apps, and they're android or IOS only. I've looking into postmarket OS, but open for suggestions.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago
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[-] ouch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Google has ruined Android by closing it up.

EU needs to step in and force Google to open it up.

While at it, go for Apple's monopoly as well.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Revolut seems to continue working as of now on my PIxel 7. I'm transferring the money out just in case. Any idea when are they going to stop them from working?

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

Stops working if you log in and out of your account. At least this is what GrapheneOS folks stated on BlueSky.

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