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[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 46 points 4 days ago
[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

And yet they still probably won't allow any third party app to have access to RCS via an API. FFS.

Wish the EU would start a lawsuit against them for that. It is blatantly anti-competitive and responsible for the death of so many messaging apps.

But I guess the EU is content with non-interoperable Whatsapp harvesting and gatekeeping the personal communication of almost every citizen. Even worse than Google Messages IMO.

[-] bradboimler@startrek.website 32 points 4 days ago

Glad I use GrapheneOS and don't use any Google apps or services anymore it's amazing how I no longer get spam calls and texts since the switch.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I de-google everything I can.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it's now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.

Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol -2 points 4 days ago

De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

I know, that's why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well, it may be ideal, but that is not the same as absolutely necessary.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.

It's obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don't think I have any more to contribute to this topic.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Don't you have issues with banking apps then? It's the one thing holding me back from switching, but I haven't really done a deep dive in it.

[-] bradboimler@startrek.website 2 points 3 days ago

No my bank app doesn't even use Google Play in anyway depends on the bank.

[-] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Its a common misconception that banking apps don't work on grapheneOS.

In some cases there is a feature call "expliot protection compatibility mode" that you have to enable, but the OS does it automatically for most banking apps.

I wish I had a Pixel.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 days ago

Sounds like a potential security hole. Hopefully there will be a way to fully disable it in the OS.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

Certainly would make hijacking other apps more easy if you could access the API.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

So it will finally be able to do what "OK Google" should have been able to do from the beginning?

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

Not on my devices... Eff that

[-] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Might be an unpopular opinion but, this sounds really exciting to me. I hate fidgeting with my phone and always have been super interested in a true AI type assistant type thing.

It's a shame no one should ever trust this, regardless of what company makes it.

Oh what the world could be.

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Yo fax too many people just hate ai for the hell of it, I just hate the folks who happen to be in control of all the cool ai tech. Imagine if... Openai was actually FOSS ai??!?!😳

[-] christhebaker@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Are there any good FOSS AI agents?

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Try duckai (by duckduckgo) its not ideal but its something. It acts as a middleman between you and a few llms and they have agreements that ur queries aren't used for training+metadata is removed by ddg before it reaches the llm I believed

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

And then people wonder why everyone is sitting on old Android versions. 😂

[-] nope@jlai.lu 6 points 3 days ago

If it was able to do that without phoning home I'd definitely dive it a try

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

Can't wait for it to completely mangle all my alarms. Google assistants already tell me "you don't have a list called grocery" when I ask if bread is on it, but is happy to add it to the list again when I tell it to.

[-] henrikx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

That's the whole point. Google assistant sucks because it only understands commands, and doesn't understand natural language. This is Google's attempt at making a truly great assistant, as they always envisioned it to be. Personally, I am very excited as there is a lot of potential in the technology. It would be a shame if they don't execute well on it.

[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Gemini would be only a system app right? Then I should be able to disable it too right? This is something Google app on your device already does I believe.

[-] LostNetizen@lemdro.id 4 points 4 days ago

Impressive at the same time it's a bit too scary

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Dragon Ball Z has made tech headlines more interesting.

[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 1 points 4 days ago

I think this will run on device similar to Apple Intelligences's app intents.

this post was submitted on 14 Dec 2024
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