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[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 22 minutes ago

Put the gun away and throw that cpp book in the bin, fool. I brought The Linux Kernel Programming Guide, which is in C, and my own socks, which are wool. Now let's gets crackin.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Girl, I will wear whatever socks you want, but... pulls out my own gun. We're reading this damn book instead.

[-] somenonewho@feddit.org 2 points 38 minutes ago

Why no K&R?

/s

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 2 points 59 minutes ago
[-] foofiepie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Absolutely. Put the gun away. You got me at nerdy.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 39 points 3 hours ago

Linux is C only, ever read the rant by Linus last century about C++ ? I was there, in usenet

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

They're about allow bits of rust though

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago
[-] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 hours ago

Wait, you are telling people had discussion in Usenet? No way!

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

it was mostly flame wars, alt.bin.pictures.erotica, warez, discussion about The Simpson, and of course The Oracle, and Kibo.

EDIT for young people, the usenet oracle and kibology

[-] m_f@midwest.social 59 points 4 hours ago

The cool kids are forcing people to read this at gunpoint nowadays

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 2 points 25 minutes ago

I'll never touch Rust.

I hate the syntax and cargo too much for that. If that means that I'll never write mission critical, low level code, so be it.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 44 points 3 hours ago

Right? It's in the kernel and everything now. Linus likes it. Linus hates everything. HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING HIM?

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 hours ago

Big Rust has gotten to Linus

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

Did he actually say that he likes it? My impression was that it's not his comfort zone, but he recognizes that for the vast majority of young programmers, C is not their comfort zone. And so, if they don't hop on this Rust train, the Linux kernel is going to look like a COBOL project in a not too distant future. It does not happen very often that a programming language capable of implementing kernels gains wide-spread adoption.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 hours ago

One (1) good programming language is what they paid him XD

[-] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

Why is there Gleam and Deno on the cover?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I know you're joking, but uh, both of those are (largely) implemented in Rust...

[-] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 hours ago
[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 hours ago

the author of C++ said that C gives you many opportunities to shoot yourself in the leg. You have a much less chance for this to happen with C++, but when it does, you will blow your whole lower body off

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah C++ is a bazooka, C is like the death of 1000 paper cuts.

The paper cuts are all poisonous and kills you anyway.

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

I haven't used either, but compiled a lot of C source code and they compiled or could be adjusted easier even for someone who barely knows what printf, fopen, or #include are

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 3 hours ago

Wat? Don't you dare talk that way about my favorite multiple personality disorder clusterfuck of a language.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

C is the only language, all the rest are mental disorders (/j ๐Ÿ˜‰)

Edit: maybe rust, but it's on thin ice XD

[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago
[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

for command line apps bash, python, perl, ruby and similiar high level languages are more than enough. You can write some Kali Lincox the louder you are the less you hear network probe stuff with any of these, or even a storage optimizer (BleachBit is almost entirely written in Python, which is a very highly abstracted language implemented from C) Rust and C are only needed for performance-crtitical stuff (like rythm games) or/and directly interacting with hardware (drivers, firmware, system functions)

[-] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Don't listen to the newbie above. You can use whatever language you are comfy with that works for your situation.

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

i never said you can't. But high level languages were made for high level programming, and low level for low level programming. If you only know C, sure, you can write a desktop music player, but it will be much harder than just using Java, or even Python, since both of these languages are known about their extensive prewritten libraries. And you have to write much less, which means less room for error. Using a high level language will also benefit you if you decide to port your app to a drasticly different operating system. You can use the same codebase for Python, and for Java too to seamlessly run the program on any other os supported by these languages. In C, you need to adjust a lot of things, i know from experience that Linux C source can compile and run on windows, but it is extremely rare and can introduce bugs. However, you are right that C is highly multifunctional. If you know it, you can write any low level software or desktop app. And it also runs mich faster than any high level intrepeted language. And even if i could be considered a beginner, i actually study software development and testing, so i have an idea what i'm talking about

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Only the internet to keep telling us these lies ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

I'm down for Linux, but not C++ (I'm not into S&M)

this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2024
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