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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Israel doesn’t need our support. Ukraine does. Easy choice.

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Palestine needs our support though.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago

Removing funding from israel will indirectly support palestine, because then israel will stop pissing away US tax dollars on chemical weapons

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Palestine isn't getting our support, and these current events will not change that at all.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I lack the words, so I have used interpretive meming instead.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Christ what resolution was that image? 8k?! Why was it 6MB? I got to watch that load in like dial up, 1 line at a time. I finished the punchline before an elbow even appeared on my screen

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because its a virus now you are infected. If you want to save your computer you have to throw it in the lake

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will any lake do? Or is there a specific lake that IT professionals prefer?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The wet one

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

There really should be an option to hide these images by default.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Me living in a (semi-)civilized nation which actually has access to high speed internet

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The paper tiger is beginning to shred. Hopefully.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US, famous for just rolling over. You guys are on more copium than imperial japan and it’s hilarious.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US has a lot of criticism that can be leveled at it, but "paper tiger" certainly isn't one.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally the Vietnamese called the US a paper tiger and then kicked the US' ass.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If what the US did to Vietnam and Cambodia over 20+ years is a "paper tiger" then uh, I don't think a real tiger exists.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do genocide and fail at winning wars against relatively small impoverished nations?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess if killing 1million+ Vietnamese is something a "paper tiger" does sure the US is a "paper tiger."

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. This isn't call of duty where the goal is to kill as many people as possible. The US got its ass kicked.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes I get it. The US lost the Vietnam war. The issue is that a "paper tiger" doesn't kill 1million+ people. Losing a war doesn't mean you are a paper tiger.

Is Hamas also a paper tiger? Russia? Israel?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Quit coping, you're clearly in the wrong here.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say that the vietnamese soldier who made the claim and almost certainly was killed by the "paper tiger" was wrong.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ, listen to yourself.

[–] 5ublimation@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

So paper tiger's kill 1million+ people and then someone else's capital city is renamed? Is the US the only "paper tiger" to ever exist? I figured the expression would be much older then the US.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 19 points 2 years ago

"Stretching its ability to support Ukraine"...for now.

The problem isn't that we can't do both because we certainly can, the problem is that we're running out of money to do it UNDER CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS BILLS.

Congress will eventually return to session and more appropriations bills will pass; the only questions are how much and how quickly it will be done.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

Better start a bidding war for boom boom rations, or scale back the secret wars in the global South. Damn making the $Trillion military pick and choose.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Geopolitically speaking, you should completely pull out of Israel. Seriously, do it. Pull all funding from Israel.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is Israel, who is hardly the victim in their conflict and strangely very well funded by US taxpayers ,being conflated with Ukraine, who is being invaded by a dictatorship?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The only constant between those two is the fascism.

[–] autotldr 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The White House said it was “running out of runway” on supporting both Ukraine and Israel as US Republican lawmakers warned they would protest any funding request for military aid from the Biden administration for the two crisis-hit nations.

Mr Kirby was answering a question at a daily briefing on the administration meeting the immediate needs of Ukraine and Israel along with the continuing fight to elect a House Speaker.

The National Security Council coordinator also said the House Speaker position was critical in terms of bringing legislation to the floor and moving things forward.

The White House has been considering a budget request tying money for these two conflicts together to increase the chances that the heavily-debated assistance for Ukraine will be approved.

He told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US will send more military assistance to help Israel fight Hamas.

The US is already rushing munitions and military equipment to Israel and has deployed a carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean as deterrence.


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[–] Porka_911@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Israel is like David and Goliath, but this time Goliath wins.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

While there is no evidence to support it, some experts are pointing at Putin's lukewarm response after the attack, and the fact that this division of efforts is immensely helpful to his invasion in Ukraine, and are wondering if he worked with Iran to help arm and plan this attack by Hamas.

So, in other words, "stretching its ability to support Ukraine" was the whole point.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4250708-putins-fingerprints-are-on-hamas/

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I too enjoy consuming conspiracy theories dressed up as news

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Why do you need to support Israel at all beyond the amount that was previously being done? They're not in an actual war and they're not having to defend against an invasion like Ukraine is.